Burt Gummer’s Rec Room

A gathering place for paranoid survivalists and those who worship at the Church of Chang

August 2015: Dryer than a bone, and hotter than the surface of the sun- yup, it’s summertime in Perfection and El Blanco is on the prowl.

Disclaimer: This is the part of the Church that is the most no holds barred. None of it is intended with malice, and although it can on occasion seem a little bit fraught, it is banter rather than venom. So, be warned that this is like taking a naked swim in a piranha tank and not recommended for the faint of heart.

10,088 responses to “Burt Gummer’s Rec Room”

  1. Continentalop says :

    Change of subject, I really haven’t been watching or reading much until recently. Just started the Travis McGee & Silver John series, digging both. Going to finish up season 3 of Gomorrah tonight, and start Banshee after that.

    Movie wise pretty much just watching old stuff. But I just watched the Japanese exploitation Female Prisoner Scorpion series. Highly recommend it. It’s like if a Pam Grier female prison movie combined with Ms. 45 and really bright & colorful stylistic visuals.

    • Xiphos0311 says :

      I wish I could start banshee all over again not knowing anything about it. God damn that is a fun show.

      • Continentalop says :

        For some reason I had no interest in that show until I recently saw a clip. Was like “Fuck, I’ve been missing out.”

      • Xiphos0311 says :

        its one of the most entertaining shows of that decade. It was consistently great.

      • Continentalop says :

        I just rewatched Justified and Hap & Leonard with my dad. Those two shows really hold up but I have to say they made a mistake with H & L being just season long adaptations of each novel. In hindsight I realize you can have a big major arc, but you really do need individual separate episodes mingled in for those kind of shows.

      • Xiphos0311 says :

        I thought they miscast Leonard and the stories didn’t quit land for me.

      • Xiphos0311 says :

        Justified OTOH was a great modern western.

      • Continentalop says :

        Not so much for me but for the more casual fans like my dad. He loved the two characters but I could tell it wore him down to watch basically a 4 hour movie broken in 6 parts.

      • Xiphos0311 says :

        Did the clip of Banshee you saw a fight scene?

      • Continentalop says :

        Yes. I was like “I remember the when America action movies used to have violent fight scenes.”

      • Xiphos0311 says :

        Banshee has some the most creative fight scenes on movie and TV. From conception to execution its top notch.

      • Continentalop says :

        Honestly if you’re a fan of 70s & 80s style action or what Cronenberg did in A History of Violence & Eastern Promises, and want to see visceral style action, over the last decades you needed to watch TV shows not movies. Thinking Richard Harrow shootout in Boardwalk Empire, Bulletville in Justified, Hank/Twins shoutout on Braking Bad, hallway fight in Daredevil, Punisher prison fight, etc. Way better than the CG action scenes we were getting at the movies (foreign movies excluded).

      • Xiphos0311 says :

        That Boardwalk Empire scene was amazing. And i agree TV has it over movies.

      • Continentalop says :

        Even if you don’t like the shows I listed, you at least probably could watch the action/fight scene I listed. Unlike Black Panther or Wonder Woman.

      • Xiphos0311 says :

        The only one I’m iffy on is DD and mostly because I think they miscast DD with the tiny English lad.

    • Continentalop says :

      The Female Prisoner Scorpion series is from ‘72 & ‘73 btw. The are, in order:
      Female Prisoner 701: Scorpion
      Female Convict Scorpion: Jailhouse 41
      Female Convict Scorpion: Beast Stable
      Female Prisoner Scorpion: 701’s Grudge Song

  2. Tombando says :

    Noted_Sage Conti Pops! Velcommen. Watching Perry Mason redo 4 eps in, 1932 he’s a PI, there’s the usual CSI level cadaver porn and Boardwalk Empire Whee we kin show Tits and say Fuck in these now! flourishes that take ya outta the show. Its pretty ok seems to be improving. Lithgow is in Everything recently by the looks.

    Uhhh Pelican Brief wasn’t bad, been years, Argo was fun to revisit, the new Looney tunes were kinda fun on hbomax. The usual stuff in other words.

  3. Continentalop says :

    Finally started watching BANSHEE. This show is stupid, with just dumb action, ridiculous characters, and skinemax sex & nudity.

    It’s wonderful.

  4. Tombando says :

    Mare of Easttown. Kate Winslet is Cagney and Lacey ala True Detective. Does that make sense? Anyways I liked it. She’s great. Plot has too many red herrings and you coulda cut out a couple characters, but okay it’s still pretty good. Very Delco area. Some of the actors look too much alike-50ish dark haired guys w receding hairlines and beards abound- and they get really cute on the oh so tangled family trees etc. I still liked it and on second viewing it holds up.

    • Tombando says :

      Tenet. Nolan takes another whack at Inception territory, we get this. Big bonkers mess that’s hard to follow and waaaaay to full of its reverse time gimmicks. I won’t be watching it again. Wtf Nolan? Mikey Bay is more coherent.

      • M. Blitz says :

        I’m about to start watching Mare of Easttown. Best thing about Tenet was Pattinson.

      • Tombando says :

        You should like Mare. Kate’s great. Tenet was lousy. I am sorry I bothered. Self indulgent confusing mess.

      • Tombando says :

        Lemme see watching/watched:
        *Luca-ehhh. Pixar’s coasting. Its dull.
        *Raya the dragon hunter. Okay that is good. I liked it.
        *John Zwick 1. Okay, pretty good. Lotsa violence. Bill and Ted does his Billy Jack thing. Works.

        *Cold Case yr 1 15 eps in. The music and flashbacks are the best parts. NCIS type formula otherwise.
        *NCIS yr 1. Always reliable. Ducky and the Coors Guy are the best parts.

        *Lawman yr 3-solid. Another Gunsmoke knockoff but it works. John Russell’s whole show.
        *Loki 4 shows in is not bad. Expecting Kang. Owen Wilson’s a welcome presence.

        *Guns of Will Sonnett-Walter Brennan western show late 60s. Decent especially w the guest stars. I liked it.

        How is everyone?

  5. tombando says :

    Black widow was pretty okay, typical but I enjoyed it. Youse has seen it all before bear in mind.

    • Just Pillow Talk says :

      I thought Black Widow was pretty bad, like one of the worst. The interaction between the “sisters” seemed forced, the whole f as Emily dynamic didn’t work, Weiz was wasted, horrible villains, taskmaster “backstory ” weak and unnecessary…

      And the Marvel shittiness continues with all 3 of their series. While Loku wasn’t as bad as Wandavision, it was bad. Literally pointless. If you are going to do Kang, you do the Kang storyline.

      Halfway through season 4 of the Magicians. It has its moments, but still uneven in how effective it is. Really not any great episodes, but watchable.

      My youngest daughter likes the Mysterious Benedict Society, which is fine to watch with her.

      The Tomorrow War was decent. It’s just hard to believe Starlord as an action star, never believe his “serious ” delivery.

    • Tombando says :

      Hrmmm okay I’m it here. That’s cool. I weirdly hadn’t seen Alien, Towering Inferno or Porky’s uncut or all the way through in a sitting til yesterday. Prime has them. Strange I know the highlights are forever being run ala Rocky or Star Wars etc. Alien isn’t nearly the gorefest you hear, other than the infamous chestbursting stuff. The Monster acts as Jaws. Lotsa lurking. Struck me how much of the cast-Kotto, Hurt, Bilbo-have died recently. It holds up great. Inferno is cookie cutter Disaster film, Holden, Jennifer Jones, McQueen Newman etc all do their things. I liked the stunts and the whole copter cable car thing. Had forgotten about this. Works. Kinda overlong. Porky’s sheesh you look the guys up they’re All 25-30 during the movies. They’re ok. I am sitting through #3 for 1st time its…more of the same. Like the soundtrack. And it hit me at the end of the first one Alex Karras is the sheriff. Ha.

      • Tombando says :

        Suicide Squad Too is pretty good. Gaurdians director stands the original on its head. Pretty ok cast. Gorey in places, does an Interesting bait and switch early on. Check it out if you are interested. I saw it in HBO Max.

      • Tombando says :

        Hey Moonwolves is over a million hits! Alright.

      • M. Blitz says :

        Hi Tom! I’m amazed (and envious) that you got to watch Alien for the first time.

        I’ve been watching Happy Days and The White Lotus.

      • Tombando says :

        Well to be clear I watched all 3 of those on tv before-just not uncut or all the way through. But yes it was fun. Stupid Porky’s I think I caught the last 20 minutes here, the shower scene there, etc.

        Happy Days I have the 76-77 season w the Malachi Crunch etc it’s good nostalgia if in the mood.

      • M. Blitz says :

        Oh i know, but there’s nothing like an uninterrupted, beginning to end viewing.

      • Tombando says :

        Haw saw Burn After Reading that was pretty good. Bit of a farce.

      • M. Blitz says :

        Hah I remember that being funny. Havent seen it since it came out.

        I’m working my way through Cheers.

      • Tombando says :

        Criminal minds here…I can see why Mandy Patinkin bailed after 2 years. Pretty fugly wallow at times. But watching it just the same.

        Oh another Bucket list movie I had missed Shawshank . Pretty good.

  6. M. Blitz says :

    How’s everybody doing? Anybody still around?

  7. tombando says :

    For what it’s worth I’m checking out Titans, first 2 episodes. They’re not sure what to do here-you have Beast Boy and Robin and Starfire and Raven, but it’s all Gritty and bloody and bleached out and they say Fuck. Yet they’re wearing the Comic Unis about as usual. So who knows? I’ll give it a shot.

    Urmmm besides that? Watched couple years of Without a Trace and the usual gamut of stuffs. Nothing too terribly radical here.

    Jarv and Blitz! Amazin’. Place was deserted.

  8. tombando says :

    Oh and I checked out Disney in FLA for the first time a month or so ago. That was pretty cool Giraffes!!

    • M. Blitz says :

      Was it crowded? I havent been there in 30 years. Didnt make it to the safari part.

      • tombando says :

        It was not Too crowded. I stayed at one of the resorts in the Animal kingdom where you had zebras giraffes Ankole Cows etc. Outside. Was neat if surreal.

      • M. Blitz says :

        Apparently you just needed to hit up PG county MD for zebras lol

        Bizarrely, the Guardian is attempting to track the escaped zebras, who have been roaming for weeks now. Hitting up some very random, rural liquor stores and taverns to interview locals in the process. I can barely believe my eyes.

      • tombando says :

        That’s Weird. I enjoyed the stay. Epcot and Hollywood Studios were the best parts apart from the Safari.

  9. ThereWolf says :

    Has anyone seen the new Dune? Is it even out yet? The trailer looked decent anyway.

    I haven’t watched anything for donkeys.

    • tombando says :

      Nope donno if its a movie movie or a streaming thing or what. I am guessing Sting isn’t in this one.

    • Xiphos0311 says :

      Its out in Europe and you “find” it online. It doesn’t hit this side of the pond until 22 October I believe. I’m waiting to see it in a theater and have been studiously avoiding any info about it.

    • M. Blitz says :

      Hoping to catch this in the theater

    • Tombando says :

      I have watched the first 90 minutes of it now on HBO Max, will get the rest later. It has Aquaman, Stellan Skarsgard, Thanos, Drax, lotsa sand, imperial royal jousting, sand and plotting. It takes time to get the gist of who and what. I am sorta bored and it’s rather Aloof. It’s pricey. I am sure it’s going to more popular w fans. Reminds me of the 2012 john carter some.

      • Tombando says :

        Okay saw the last hour of it. More of the same. Its perfectly fine, just a been there-done that feeling to it, and its-kinda aloof/distant. I donno, not that involving. You have part 2 coming if part 1 does anything. Guessing fans will be into this more than me.

      • ThereWolf says :

        Dune = John Carter…

        Ouch.

  10. ThereWolf says :

    Just watched a trailer for the latest Resident Evil remakey-booty-imaginingy thingy…

    It’s going to be shite by the looks of it. Some cool nods to the original video game though.

    Another Paranormal Activity as well; despite my apathy I had a look at the trailer… and it actually looks decent. Total surprise. Don’t think it’s getting a cinema release.

    • M. Blitz says :

      I forgot they continue to make Paranornal Activities. I watched the first one again last year and liked it better than when it first came out.

      • Tombando says :

        I caught the new James Bond it was pretty good. Definitely the last for him.

        Run of Amazon Prime stuff lately: Carnal Knowledge-decent, Jack Nicholson and Ann Margret, King of Marvin Gardens-Jack and Bruce Dern-zzz, The Gambler w James Caan -good, Big Town w Matt Dillon and Tommy Lee Jones, decent, and Eyes of Laura Mars w Faye Dunaway and Tommy Lee again-ok.

      • ThereWolf says :

        First one was okay-ish. No desire to see it again, though. Can’t remember anything about PA2 or PA3. Haven’t seen any others.

  11. M. Blitz says :

    🎃 HAPPY HALLOWEEN 🎃

  12. Xiphos0311 says :

    So, DUNE, overall it was good but they did need to streamline it. They could have easily ditched the pensive looks and some of the made up scenes that weren’t in the books could’ve been jettison for other character development. Some important characters were sidelined. they made some really odd choices about how they presented some things that would’ve worked better as written in the book.
    I’m not sure why Hollywood is in love with this Zendaya chick she has one look on her face that says “I’m mildly constipated” and there is no way I buy her as a hardened Fremen warrior. I would buy her for construction purposes becasue she is a slat of wood almost as bad as that space Jesus chick from the SW prequels.

    • Tombando says :

      It was forever since I either read whatever of it I had wayy back when or saw the Sting movie, so it was a bit confusing for a while. Pretty good but didn’t grab me. All those trendy Marvel and DC faces kinda took me out of it at the worst times. But cool you liked it.

    • ThereWolf says :

      It’s been a long, long time since I read the book so they might get some of the changes past me without me noticing! Yeh, Zendaya… when I saw the trailer I thought she looked a weak link.

      How was Zimmer’s score? I’ve heard it’s more ‘soundscapes’ than themes.

      Also… ‘Space Jesus’. Funny. And genius.

  13. ThereWolf says :

    That’s a shocker, the shooting on the set of ‘Rust’. How the fuck does live ammo get onto a film set? Into a gun and onto a film set without being checked properly. If I was an actor I’d be saying “I’m not taking that weapon until you’ve checked it in front of me.” I’m not saying it’s Baldwin’s fault, but it’s gross negligence at every step.

    • Tombando says :

      I don’t get it either? You would think it’s something they learned to prevent 60 years ago.

    • M. Blitz says :

      Dude, i am semi-obsessed with that. There is no excuse for that to have occurred whatsoever. The reports of people taking the guns out for target practice sound completely believable to me. Baldwin def bears some responsibility as a producer. Union crew walked? Clearly a complete shitshow with every possible corner cut.

      The scene Baldwin was rehearsing for would have had him shooting Jenson Ackles aka Dean Winchester. Baldwin would be in hiding right now if he’d have killed Dean.

    • Xiphos0311 says :

      its 110% Baldwins fault. That fat fucking poser has been working with firearms for like a hundred years. He knows the first thing you do, when handed a weapon, is check the chamber to see if its hot. Fatso has also been taught not to point a weapon at anything you aren’t willing to destroy, like for instance, the assistant director or Dean Winchester. So yes fat fuck is at fault and they should arrest that douche bag and charge him with murder that loud mouth prick.

      • M. Blitz says :

        The AD who handed it to him didnt even check it, which is outrageous. I thought it was standard to show the actor when you hand it to them.

        Did you see the reports from the armorer’s previous film, that she was messing around trying to load a revolver that was laying on the ground, on a bunch of gravel, then handed it to an actor without checking it? The descriptions of the gun cart sound crazy sloppy and unsecured. Just outrageous all the way down the line.

      • Xiphos0311 says :

        how do you have a hard time loading a revolver? Arguably they are the easiest firearm to load. You just hit the cylinder release, push the ejection rod to get rid of the used brass and insert new rounds and close. It’s even faster with speed loaders. once upon a time when i did competitive shooting i could run a speed loader nearly as fast as dumping and inserting a new mag in a semi auto.

      • Xiphos0311 says :

        I’m not saying that the armorer didn’t have some culpability but again the weapon was in his hands, he failed to even take the basic precaution of checking the chamber to see if its hot and then pointed a weapon he knew nothing about at a person he wasn’t willing to destroy and pulled the trigger. He is responsible on so many levels its ridiculous. he ignored every basic rule of firearm handling there is. The insurance companies are going to be paying out a hefty judgements.

      • M. Blitz says :

        I 100% agree he should have checked it or at the least insisted it was shown to him.

        He wasn’t even aiming it apparently, it went off as he was practicing drawing. The third or fourth accidental discharge on the set? All so crazy!

      • M. Blitz says :

        There was also an interview where the armorer talked about it being scary to load a blank in a gun? Really hope that sort of talk was some kind of dumb affectation cuz good grief, what the fuck are you doing??

      • Xiphos0311 says :

        Huh? Its not any different than loading a normal round.

      • M. Blitz says :

        Yeah, very odd. When the story first broke i was SURE it was gonna turn out that Baldwin was gesturing with a gun mid tantrum and it went off at close range. The actual situation is just as if not more absurd.

      • Xiphos0311 says :

        It’s more absurd, fatty just drew down on the AD and killed her.

      • ThereWolf says :

        Even more absurd, the scene they were rehearsing apparently did not involve discharging the weapon…

        It’s 3-part weapons negligence. What I find distasteful is the 3 most culpable trying to slither their way out of responsibility. The AD putting out a statement calling on the ‘film industry’ to sort itself out so this can never happen again; no, mate, if you had checked the gun someone would still be alive today. Then you’ve got the armourer changing her mind. First off she doesn’t know how the live round(s) got in there coz the weapons are locked in a cabinet. Then all of a sudden it’s ‘sabotage’ and the weapons were left on a trolley unattended. No, mate, if you had checked that gun at any point before handing it off to the AD, someone would still be alive today.

        And then there’s Baldwin, who’s been in enough shows with guns going off around him, he can’t possibly be unaware of proper weapons safety. If he’s been on a show with an ex-military armourer then he will have been told to check the weapon, even if the armourer has checked it in front of him. Once the gun gets handed off, it’s Baldwin’s responsibility.

        Now he’s got his little brother parping off for him. ‘He’s getting the blame because of his politics. He does a lot for charity you know…” Pathetic. He’s getting the blame coz he didn’t check the gun, Daniel and he pointed the barrel at another person and pulled the trigger. And now that person is dead.

      • Xiphos0311 says :

        I’m going to go WAY out on a limb here and say I’m probably the person with the most experience in weapons handling around here and I’m going to put that hat on and say, like Wolf pointed out, Baldwin is the most at fault. He had decades of movie fire arm training and he disregarded the most basic bedrock rules of fire arm handling.

        Fuck his brother for what he is saying about politics and charity what an ass hole but what would you expect from a Baldwin?

  14. ThereWolf says :

    Well, at least Kathleen Kennedy has had her contract renewed.

    Stand by for ‘The Further Adventures Of Space Jesus!’

  15. Xiphos0311 says :

    Saw the new Ghostbusters movie today and it was pretty good. They didn’t reinvent the wheel or anything but it was a decent couple of hours of entertainment that had nice nods to the original flicks and managed to work the old guys into the story in a natural way. They also had a great send off for Harold Ramis that was touching and nice.

    • Tombando says :

      *Baldwin draws a blank. Yeah he’s at least Half responsible. And someone died. Surprised this doesn’t happen more.

      *I thought about the GB flick or the Eternals thingy but can’t be bothered. So breaking out the Miami vice and Quantum leap DVDs.

      • Tombando says :

        I half expect Baldwin to get manslaughter charges but who knows. Vice episode w Buscemi and Willie Nelson. Neat.

      • Tombando says :

        Caught Ali (Will Smith), Jungle Cruise and Shang Chi recently. Ali was pretty good, esp the fight scenes. J Cruise is basically The Mummy in the Amazon, okay if dumbhouse. Shang Chi I liked a lot. Went a different direction than I expected. Pretty Jackie Chan too.

  16. Xiphos0311 says :

    Happy Thanksgiving to everybody.

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