Burt Gummer’s Rec Room- Archive 2014

A gathering place for paranoid survivalists and those who worship at the Church of Chang

A belated welcome to 2014. Happy Fucking New Year.

Disclaimer: This is the part of the Church that is the most no holds barred. None of it is intended with malice, and although it can on occasion seem a little bit fraught, it is banter rather than venom. So, be warned that this is like taking a naked swim in a piranha tank and not recommended for the faint of heart.

4,888 responses to “Burt Gummer’s Rec Room- Archive 2014”

  1. tombando says :

    Saw the Bucket List. Huh. Grumpy old men w Jaack and Easy Reader. I actually liked it. But enjoyed the ep of the Sodd Couple afterwards better. Klugman and Randall were fun.

    • M. Blitz says :

      You’re a brave one Bando! Odd Couple is great though. I caught some early morning I Love Lucy today. Been a long time. Still funny.

      Missed out on King Creole on Elvis day. One of my faves. Caught a couple of those goofy early 60’s Ann Margaret duos though. So fun! Lots of stiff hip shaking hysterics going on.

  2. M. Blitz says :

    My brother’s response to walking in on a Loretta Young marathon in progress, bug-eyed: “DAMN! Why don’t chicks look like that anymore??”

  3. Just Pillow Talk says :

    Brick Mansions was pretty much what I was expecting. Really hate the way it was shot, which is the case for most action movies these days. Stupid plot, ending, you name it.

  4. tombando says :

    Okay, Selma. Its really good. I can agree that the Mlk actor and Duvarny the director were screwed by Oscar. Have all seen much worse nominated. Yah they make out Tom Wilkinson’s Lbj as being worse on Civil rights than he was, and Tim Roth as George Wallace made me do a doubletake, but so? I enjoyed the picture of Mlk as being flawed, at times unsure, and confronted w dissension in the ranks. This, the march over the bridge into the brownshirts and the overall feeling you get watching is this is a serious film that takes mlk and co very seriously. Its oscar bait but it earns that. I liked the little bits of Martin Sheen, Oprah, Cuba Gooding and our friend from the RV in the walking dead. Distractingly theres an actor who looks a lot like Rihanna in the background all thru it, prob isn’t Ms Umbrella but you are taken outta the picture by this.

    Worse parts? Lbj rings up J Edgar– Curt Connors from the Maguire Spideys–then its cut to Mlk being blackmailed in front of Coretta. That ddidn’t happen. I think Lbj was a bigtime sleaze, but here he deserved better. You should still see it. Best movie from last yr I saw , albeit that tops out at 20 or so.

    • tombando says :

      The vagaries of fandom–the Loretta Young Show in the fifties wasn’t bad, ran for yrs, had the usual run of high profile guest stars–but you hear as much on it as you do say Make Room for Daddy or whatever. Some stuff just vanishes. Bob Cummings was another one. Basically Dick Van Dyke sr. But nada.

    • Continentalop says :

      In defense of the Academy, I think SELMA getting snubbed has less to do with any racism on the Academy’s part, and more to do with the fact that SELMA didn’t send screeners to a lot of guild awards and sent them late to Academy voters.

      It sounds like a pretty poor add campaign.

  5. tombando says :

    Loretta Young story: a famed Good Girl of the studio age, unlike her rival Marlene Dietrich who was notorious for putting out like a broken coke machine. Catholic guilt burdoned Loretta however had the habit of doing her co-stars, not a couple married. So of course Young would turn around and trying to make good w her faith, doled out the $ to the Church… Dietrich would take friends around LA on her ‘Loretta Young’ tour, stopping and pointing out all these newly buildt or refurbished Churches. Said to be a rather lengthy tour, at least acc to Marlene’s daughter….

  6. Just Pillow Talk says :

    Jarv, when can we expect a review of Paddington?

    • Jarv says :

      I was actually thinking about this. It had all the potential for a heinous piece of childhood rape, but is apparently really really good.

      So, I’m going to see if I can acquire a decent version and give it a watch.

  7. tombando says :

    2 more in the vhs marathon, 2003 edition.

    The Recruit–Pacino, Farrell, Moynihan. Cia shenanigans w Recruiter Al going rogue and using ace Newbie Colin for his nefarious ends. Silliness involving cds and two lovers being played off vs each other. By the numbers, Al walks thru it and so does the viewer. Needs that tiger and his hat.

    The Italian Job–Marky Mark, The Theron, Mos Def and co do the Fast and Furious routine in Mini Coopers, copters and leave Ed Norton to inspect the Ukrainian Mobs shop tools. Pretty fun, also by the numbers but worth seeing it again. Gold bars apparently weigh 4 lbs each in Hollywood.

  8. Continentalop says :

    Happy New Year, all (I don’t think I have stopped in yet in 2015). Hope everyone survived the holidays.

  9. Continentalop says :

    Recent viewings.

    Finished Buffy S7 and half way through Angel S5.

    Started Orange is the New Black.

    Saw FURY – nothing special, which is why I liked it. It doesn’t go overboard with sentimentalizing the war and the soldiers, and the relationship between the tank crew is like 100x more realistic than SPR’s 1943 WWII propaganda central casting.

    FOXCATCHER – good movie, but I didn’t love it. In part because I am really familiar with the actual case, which is way weirder and more interesting than the movie they made about it. But Steve Carrell and the others make it worth watching just for the performances.

    IMITATION GAME – incredibly disappointing. Not as bad as THE KING’S SPEECH, but another incident of the Weinstien manipulating Academy voters with safe claptrap. It is a movie about a scientist who was persecuted for being a homosexual, and the most important relationship he has in the movie is with a woman? I mean, Charles Bronson’s THE MECHANIC is gayer than this movie, and that was just with insinuations. The modern day equivalent to GUESS WHO IS COMING TO DINNER – taking a controversial theme and making a film about it for retired people.

    THE BABADOOK – Next to BIRDMAN, my favorite film of the year.

    Harry Palmer double feature – THE IPCRESS FILE and FUNERAL IN BERLIN. Michael Caine is a global treasure.

    Also rewatched the Pacific and a bunch of old movies.

    • tombando says :

      Fury Was good. Yes I heard Imitation Game being honored more than Selma and whatever else caused alotta squawking. Didn’t see any of these save for Selma, and found much to admire there despite the Pc air it no doubt has. Boyhood and American Sniper interest. Unsure about Birdman–ok Keaton’s great but what’s it about?

      Fucking Green Bay youse let the Sea Chickens win that one. Currently Pats beating Suck for Luck. More please.

      • Just Pillow Talk says :

        No shit, damn Packers gave that game away. Horrible, Seattle didn’t deserve that game. How do you throw four picks and still win the game?

      • Judge Droid says :

        By the opp having the ball on the 1 yard line twice and settling for field goals. Game could’ve been over at half time.

      • Just Pillow Talk says :

        No doubt, but also fake field goal, onside kick, one of the worst floating passes for a two point conversion that should have been swatted down……

      • Judge Droid says :

        Yep. Not throwing at Sherman even though he’s playing with 1 arm. Missed interception. There were a bunch of mistakes in the second half.

    • Jarv says :


      Turing (I think that’s who the imitation game is about) was a weirdo. Although gay, he was practically asexual and the two most important relationships in his life were with women. I suspect there’s a great film to be made about Turing- in particular about how badly we treated him, but I would be amazed if that piece of oscar bait shit is it.

      • Judge Droid says :

        Nah it’s a solid movie. It does focus mostly on the enigma code breaking stuff, which is what I’m interested in, not Turing sneaking around getting bummed. Instead of sneaky alleyway bum sessions, it deals more with his personality, which comes across in the movie as a fairly substantial mental disorder, and relationships with co-workers and a female “friend”. The horrific treatment by the UK government doesn’t get quite enough screentime perhaps, but it’s not the films focus so it didn’t bother me much.

        I don’t know anything about Turing, so I have no idea if the movie is accurate or whatever, but as a piece of entertainment that’s based around factual events and people it’s fine.

      • Jarv says :

        Turing, if he lived nowadays, would be on the autistic spectrum somewhere. He was fucked up.

      • Continentalop says :

        My problem with THE IMITATION GAME isn’t that I wanted to see him getting “bummed” but that for a gay man who later gets arrested for having gay sex, it seems odd that most of his time on screen is spent with a woman. I mean, you never even see him with another guy man the entire movie in the same frame (yes, you see him fall in love as a kid, but never once as an adult is he in the room with another adult gay person, not even the guy who he ends up getting arrested over).

        The movie just seems to radiate that kind of “safeness” and “tameness” you associate with Weinstien projects. Liberalism for older conservative film-goers.

      • Xiphos0311 says :

        Maybe the movie “radiated” the fact that everybody was in the closet so they didn’t really “hang out” together because that might get people wondering.

    • Xiphos0311 says :

      Fury’s video game ending ruined what was a decent if not very special flick. The scatter shot tone didn’t help either. The battle tank,scenes were well done.

  10. Judge Droid says :

    Recent viewing…

    Halt and Catch Fire – The first season. Was okay. Could do without another main character with the “mysterious past” that provides the writers with carte blanche to make up random character motivations simply for the DRAMA!!! At least Don Draper had a pretty interesting back story which kind of informed his fucked up personality. This guys a bit of an entitled drama queen with serious Daddy issues. But it’s entertaining enough I guess and I like Scoot McNairy as the tech guy. And the opening credits are pretty cool.

    • Just Pillow Talk says :

      I don’t recognize that show, what’s it about? Too lazy to look it up of course.

      • Judge Droid says :

        Its set in the 80’s and about a personal computer company taking on IBM. Someone here mentioned it. I’m assuming it was Xi, since he watches a lot of TV.

      • Xiphos0311 says :

        Yeah that was me I reviewed Halt and Catch Fire. It started off pretty rough but came around in the end pretty good once they figured out that the skinny broad and the Pie Man aka Don Draper lite weren’t the real stars of the show and that the nerd and his old lady are. H&CF is more or less a fictionalized version of the Compaq Computer story.

  11. Just Pillow Talk says :

    So I watched Godzilla, which if you put aside the cock tease of showing the monsters for 3/4 of the film, was decent. No annoying characters, good production, some nice visuals. I wasn’t looking for Pacific Rim level of monster showing, just a bit more. I mean, what the hell, if your movie is named Godzilla, show him a bit more.

    • Toadkillerdog says :

      Hola Pillow,
      The King deserved better.
      I mean, it was not a bad flick, but it boring and practically pointless as a Big G movie. Where the hell was the action? You only saw the aftermath not the throwdown. Was is budget cuts or just stupidity? I think the later. Just a disappointment, and they even screwed up the roar!

      Onto another stupid movie. I watched Transcendence. Can you say ludicrous? Because I guarantee that the screenwriters could not. Just a lame, stupid, dumb, inane, and hackneyed writing attempt. The flick itself looks nice at times, but script was written by a twelve year old.

    • Judge Droid says :

      Hated Godzilla. Hated the cock tease. Hated that they killed off the only decent character and chose to focus on the dull as dogshit Kick Ass. Hated the lousy script that put Kick Ass in the middle of every significant event. PR had so many monotonous monster fights (and crap characters) that it became boring. This was boring because of a lack of monster fights (and too many crap characters). Somewhere in between and you’ve got a good movie (if you fix the crap characters thing).

      • Jarv says :

        Wasn’t a huge fan of monsters, so can’t say I was shocked that Godzilla blew.

        Anyone got any content in the near future? Work is fucking me hard (although I am about to get promoted to the mediocre money) so I haven’t had a chance.

        I’ve got Paddington on the way though, hopefully.

      • Jarv says :

        I’ve also got Woman in Black 2. That one will be shit. Guaranteed.

      • Continentalop says :

        RE: GODZILLA. I loved the style of the movie, how the monsters looked and how almost everything was shot from the subjective view of the humans. But God(zilla) I hated that fucking movie.

        The humans were so fucking boring, especially the lead. And how they forced him into every major scene was just stupid. The film is shot in a “realistic” style but you’re going to have a plot that is more contrived than ID4? Fuck that film.

      • Continentalop says :

        I actually got a bunch of half-written reviews I should finish, including a series on Real-Life Superhero movies (really it is just an excuse for me to praise BOY WONDER and shit all over KICK-ASS 1 & 2, but I figured I might has well review similar movies).

      • Jarv says :

        Fuck it. I’m going to rewatch Zombeavers and do that.

        Seeing as both Paddington and The Woman in Black 2 came in fucked up.

      • Just Pillow Talk says :

        I viewed it like this: I thought the characters were okay, didn’t particularly register. But, they weren’t ones where I wanted them to actively die like in Cloverfield or Pacific Rim. For me, huge step forward.

      • tombando says :

        Movie w the most loathsome cast….at least put Cloverfield in there. Cgi giant robot lions needed to be on hand for cast eating purposes just because.

  12. ThereWolf says :

    Watched Hunger Games Catching Fire. I liked it. Well it was certainly a step up from the truly apalling Kick Ass 2, my previous filmic experience.

    Job interview last Friday… seems to have gone quite well. They’ve offered it me and I’ve accepted (references pending).

  13. tombando says :

    More vhs marathon: Swat. By the numbers, but ala Italian Job, Farrell, Sammy Jax and Michelle Rodriguez help put it across. You know who will do what when where. Airplane/SUV duel on the bridge is usual sub Bay type nonsense. Jeremy Renner is in this. Have had this vhs for say ten yrs, cannot say I Knew this despite watching it a few times. Pre-hurt locker? Whozzat?

    Directed by Clark Johnson. What’s a Clark Johnson?

    • M. Blitz says :

      I saw most of Swat in the middle of the night in a hotel room on travel for work, so probably a few years ago now. I remember having no idea what it was called and thinking “I bet it’s called something really obvious like Swat,” and it was! I recall it being pretty enjoyable, if not particularly memorable. Had definitely forgotten about it til now.

  14. Just Pillow Talk says :

    Watched the second half of Constantine, which wasn’t as good when compared to part one of the cliffhanger.

  15. tombando says :

    Have managed to totally avoid KickASS one or Too, and will continue to do so. No way. Rather watch Pacific Rim outtakes.

    • ThereWolf says :

      Don’t think it’s got any fans on here but I thought Kick Ass 1 was passable. KA2, however, is a disgrace to cinema. Everyone involved in that atrocity ought to be kicked in the face repeatedly by giant Pacific Rim robots.

  16. kloipy says :

    Hey all! Hope everyone has been well.

    Recent viewing: Gone Girl. Not Fincher’s best but I still thought it was pretty damn solid. Didn’t like the girl who played the titular girl because her performance was really wooden and her dialogue sucked. Affleck was good.

  17. tombando says :

    Wanna see Xiphos review American Skeet Shooter here. Just because.

  18. Continentalop says :

    Finished off ANGEL season 5.

    Both loved the finale and pissed off at it. Not because it was a “cliffhanger” but because the show had really hit stride. This is 100x worse than when SyFy decided not to renew Alphas, which finally was getting really good.

    Also, Spike & Angel are more soul mates than Spike or Angel and Buffy ever were.

    • Xiphos0311 says :

      The last visual in Angels final episode was one of the best single shots in TV history. Man was that a great show.

      • Continentalop says :

        Yeah, and even though I wish they made one more season (or even more) I still would want that to be the final episode and that to be the final scene. Loved the laconic dialogue at the end.

        OK. You take the 30,000 on the left…

        You’re fading. You’ll last 10 minutes at best.

        Then let’s make ’em memorable..

        In terms of a plan?

        We fight.

        Bit more specific.

        Well, personally, I kind of want to slay the dragon.
        Let’s go to work.

      • Continentalop says :

        “My soul is wrapped in harsh repose,
        midnight descends in raven-colored clothes,
        but soft…behold!
        A sunlight beam
        cutting a swath of glimmering gleam.
        My heart expands,
        ’tis grown a bulge in it,
        inspired by your beauty…

      • Barfy says :


      • M. Blitz says :

        I could never bring myself to get into Buffy. Kinda hated the little bit I saw. Was caught off guard by my sympathy for Angel though. Haven’t watched a ton of it, but enjoyed the bits I saw.

        Barfy–love the pic!

      • Xiphos0311 says :

        Angel is way way way beater than Buffy.

      • Barfy says :

        Thanks Blitz. Very well behaved dogs.

  19. tombando says :

    Oh boys divorce court time! Next 2 months will be fun.

  20. Just Pillow Talk says :

    Recent viewings….

    Finished Firefly, which I quite liked.

    Dawn of the Planet of the Apes – really liked this. Suppose you could say some human characters are underwritten, but it’s Ceasar’s story, so I don’t mind.

    Supernatural – never watched this, so saw first two episodes.

    • M. Blitz says :

      I’ve been meaning to see Dawn. I loved Rise of the Planet of the Apes. Got way emotionally invested in that movie. Humans are such dicks.

      Caught a couple eps of Supernatural a while ago, but it was from the middle of the show. I can see how it could get addictive, cuz i continued to watch despite having no clue what was going on.

      • Just Pillow Talk says :

        Yeah, I liked Rise a lot. Think I may like Dawn better, but not sure.

        I’ve seen a couple episodes of Supernatural here and there, figure I’ll start from the beginning.

      • M. Blitz says :

        The need to start from the beginning is pretty much the only thing holding me back

      • Just Pillow Talk says :

        I know, it’s like 8 seasons or whatever the hell it is. I’m sure it will take me a long time to get up-to-date, if ever.

  21. M. Blitz says :

    Just saw your news, Jarv. Fuck’s sake. I am nearly speechless.

    I hope it turns out differently and those fuckers change course and retain you.

    • Barfy says :

      Ready to sit and they pulled the chair out from under you. Sucks.

      • Jarv says :


        We’re seeing stages of grief in action. Currently most are in denial. It’s allegedly business as usual.

        Fucking joke.

      • Jarv says :

        I seem to have skipped denial and shot straight to anger. Planning to skip bargaining and depression too, as I’m already planning new job.

      • Toadkillerdog says :

        I am sorry to hear the news, but you have the right attitude – keep planning my friend. Feeling sorry for yourself only helps the alcohol and tissue companies.

        Hola Barfy, I hope all is well.
        Pillow, are you ready for some football? I want a damn good game. Outside of last year, we had been spoiled for the past 6 or seven superbowls all being great.
        I see this as either being a Pats blowout, or a really tight game with Seattle pulling it out at the end.
        Seattle has no offense outside of Lynch and an improvising Wilson. Pats too disciplined to let Wilson beat them, but they can be run on.
        Hawks do not bring enough pressure with defensive ends to bother Brady the way my Gmen did against him, so i see him carving up the middle on quick slants and bubble screens. Gronk gonna be gronk, although i truly hope for an earthshaking meeting across the middle with him an chancellor.
        I do think this game favors Pats because hawks secondary is hurting and no pressure up front.

        Tom, I am finishing up breaking bad. I enjoy it, but good gravy, i know it is only teevee, but some of the choices being made are shall we say, suspect?

        I have yet to see American Sniper. I get a bit ambivalent about yet another hollywood war movie. Some buddies have told me it was damn good though.

        Just want to say one thing, i know nothing about Kyle, but I know what he did, and only a true jackass who never faced fire would ever say that a sniper is a coward.
        That man protected. War aint for the squeamish, which is why i always get pissed off when either the hawks or doves side over state their positions.

        Conti, I thought about you while watching French Connection for the umpteenth time. Just a great flick

      • Just Pillow Talk says :

        Toad, I of course hope the Seahawks wipe out Brady and destroy the Pats. Fucking tired of the pathetic bending of the rules bullshit they pull.

      • Jarv says :

        Just seen the pathetically unfunny and juvenile Ted 2 poster. I didn’t wildly hate the first one, but if the film is at that level, then I’m going to loathe the sequel.

      • Continentalop says :

        THE FRENCH CONNECTION is just a god damn perfect movie.

        Now you just made me want to watch it again toad.

  22. tombando says :

    Best of Simon and Simon seasons Too and three, 10 epps each. Pretty ok best shows have equal parts Power Wagon, Anne Francis and Tim Reid. Byplay between leads pretty good. Very early 80’s.

    Black Oil Xfiles eps-18 shows on aliens Scully and Moulder. 4 best–Alien on train, Roy Thinnes as a Christ like alien, 2-fer involving aliens, plane shot down and a missing doohickey nasty Lockheed types want. A couple misfires but its fine. Show at its best 95-97.

  23. tombando says :

    Snow day viewing: Big Clock-Ray Milland, Laughton, Maureen Osullivan, Sherman Potter. Forerunner to No Way Out. Good stuff, Milland always worthwhile.

    Casablanca-Bogie, Bergman etc great as always just uber old hat now. Still grabs you.

    Shadow of a doubt– Hitchcock, Terry Wright, Hume Cronin, Cotton and Clarance. Great stuff.

    Vhs marathon–Phenomenon–Travolting, Duvall, Whitaker, Kyra Sedgewick. Charlie reworking, it works pretty ok despite itself.

  24. Just Pillow Talk says :

    Watched the latest Arrow and I’m through episode 10 on Supernatural, about a bazillion more to go.

  25. Continentalop says :


    GBH is ok. Ralph Fiennes is incredible as the lead concierge Mr. Gustave, but the movie itself leaves little of an impression.

    GOTG – I know this is supposed to be Marvel’s masterpiece, but it bored me to tears. It is Roger Corman movie down with just a bigger budget (and less punk rock taboo breaking and nudity/sex). On top of it, the actual narrative/plot/story is nonsensical, and the way the story is told is just amateur hour. They really should be called the Guardians of Exposition.

    At best GotG is “meh”.

  26. Just Pillow Talk says :

    So up through the first 12 episodes of Supernatural, and only one of them wasn’t good. One nitpick: I hope they are done bitching about following (or not) their Dad’s orders, because when you watch the episodes back-to-back, it’s annoying as hell.

  27. kloipy says :

    Anyone watching Peaky Blinders? Can’t wait for House of Cards to come back

  28. tombando says :

    Ok American Skeet Shooter aka The Green Berets Toby Keith Boogaloo. Clint did his normal super efficient, linearly plotted, commentary free job. Nothing here surprised me, but I did like Bradley Cooper. It turns into a rehash of Ed Harris vs Fiennes Jr Stalingrad oddly, which made me wonder.

    Some good sequences involving a sniper scope, a Fallujahisg street and armed kids. Shoot or not? Clint did those well. Less good was the repeated connecting Saddam to 9-11 bullshit, no questions asked. Kyle as portrayed by Cooper is a lethal meathead, and it makes it seem like this one sniper turned the tide in Ramadi, Sadr City and Fallujah by his lonesome. Reality and certain coworkers of mine beg to differ.

    They chose to zip thru the man’s PTSD struggles, you see him glowering in a bar and attempting to filet a collie, but really it goes from 4th tour to 2013 in no time.

    I liked it ok, its as stated a fine directorial Clint job. But it threatoned to become Rambo lite in places. Cooper has Kyle start out like a Garth Brooks video character, and you only scratch the surface of what he becomes as the yrs go by in country and at home. I liked his time w Wounded Vets, they should have done more with that at the end.

    As far’s his being brave, of course. All those guys are. I felt like I was expected to respect his More so than say a coworker of mine who was a Marine, wounded badly in Fallujah, etc and likewise had to put his life back together afterwards. That didn’t sit well.

    Anyways, its alright, not worth the Left vs Right shitfest you see online about it. You can like both Selma and American Skeet Shooter and live to tell about it.

    I think Xiphos will hate it.

  29. Continentalop says :

    Did Tom Bando direct that halftime show?

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  31. tombando says :

    Oh yes Quite happy to see the Pats beat the Sea Chickens the way they did. Pete Carroll channelled his inner Marty Schottenheimer at the right time.

  32. Just Pillow Talk says :

    Almost through season one of Supernatural, which has been okay if very formulaic. A few episodes have stood out for me: revisiting their old home, second appearance of Meg, and the vampires one.

    Constantine – watched the last two episodes, of which the last one with the dream world was much better, though how Chas dealt with a problem in the previous episode was pretty good.

    I, Frankenstein – of course this wasn’t very good, but I didn’t hate it because Nighy is still great in this. I guess I would say this was better than Abe Vampire Slayer. It is remarkable how all the different corpses used to make Aaron into Frankenstein, all looked like….himself.

  33. Judge Droid says :

    Yo. Been a while since my last update. That I can remember…

    A Most Violent Year – Decent crime movie. Actually fairly unique in that there’s actually very little violence in it. Moreso the threat of violence. Well acted and all that. Worth a look.

    Kill The Messenger – Solid movie that’s probably lacking a more definitive resolution. The endings just a bit vague and open. Which might be true, but is just a little unsatisfying.

    The Gambler – Entitled douchebag throws his money away in a useless attempt to bring meaning into his pathetic life. Hated this movie.

    The Grand Budapest Hotel – While I suppose you can appreciate Wes Anderson movies nowadays for obsessive, anal attention to the smallest detail of the production design, I haven’t liked a Wes Anderson movie since The Royal Tenenbaums (I really like Fox, but that’s based on great source material so I haven’t included it). There are briefly entertaining moments scattered throughout this movie, and Fiennes is very good but don’t care about the characters nor do I care about the story. And I’m sick to death of Andersons left to right (or vice versa) dolly track camera move, which he repeats about 15 million times in this movie.

    The Wedding Singer – Pretty entertaining movie. Probably Sandlers best. Up there anyway.

    The Wolverine – Watched the uncut version (I saw the normal version at the cinema). It’s pretty good, and a lot better than any of the X-Men movies.

    The usual TV stuff. Arrow, Flash, SN, The Blacklist, Gotham. Gotham is so terrible. There is no reason why I’m still watching it. But I am. I’m curious about how they’re going to develop Nigma though.

    Superbowl – Glad the Pats won. Their game plan was brilliant, and Brady pulled it off damn well (despite the interceptions). I don’t mind Seattle but they didn’t deserve to win. That fucking bobbled second grab off his legs catch near the end was a joke. Even luckier than the helmet catch. The look on that trash talking cockhead Shermans face when the pass was intercepted. Gold. You sad, bro? Seattle were trying to be too clever by half. This time it blew up in their face. Just let Lynch run it in. The guy didn’t get stopped for negative yards all game. Carroll has the best defence in the league and he’s worried about taking time off the clock? Just make sure you get the touchdown! Anyway, was an entertaining game.

    Apart from that I was best man at my mates wedding last week and today was my first day back at uni. And I’m still trying to repair my back after I injured it in December. Swimming and stretching it at the pool every day. My advice? Never do your back. It’s a fucking horrible experience that lingers for ages.

    • Continentalop says :

      I had to give up on Gotham. Just couldn’t handle any more of its retardness.

      The only thing I really, really liked (Gordon and Alfred I just liked) on that show was Robin Taylor’s Penguin. Has he become crappy too by now?

      • Judge Droid says :

        Penguins okay. But I’ve never been too crazy about him. While he may be the best character on the show, that’s not saying much. The shows biggest problem is the inept writing. It’s complete and utter dreck, and quite frankly, I feel bad for the actors at least twice every episode. The other problem with the show is that it’s desperate to include all the characters, so you end up with situations like Harvey Dent being (poorly) introduced, then two eps later he’s gone and not heard from since. You also have shit like Gordon being demoted to security guard at Arkham Asylum (for the mid-season break), but he’s back as detective 2 episodes (the start of the 2nd ep) later.

        And next week they’re introducing Scarecrow!

      • Continentalop says :

        It is honestly one of the worst paced shows I’ve ever seen. I just finished Angel a week or two ago, and Gotham could have learned a lot about structure and plot arcs and serial story telling from that show (and Veronica Mars).

        And I hate how every character introduced on Gotham is always just one step away from their final destination. Selina Kyle is already Catwoman, just real young; Edward Nygma is already ready to be the Riddler; and Harvey Dent is pretty much Two-Face the day before acid is thrown in his face. So we’re going to have to spend several seasons watching these characters do nothing and stand in place as they wait for Batman to show up?

        Only Bruce Wayne and the Penguin have arcs (and they’ve pretty much already went thru Penguins in just ten episodes or so).

      • tombando says :

        Noah had an ark too, Conti Pops. Pay attention.

        Actually Filmation had Ark Too. But you can’t have everything in Gotham.

  34. Continentalop says :

    Only saw two movies over the weekend, with the Super Bowl and UFC and work and all.

    Only Lovers Left Alive – some interesting ideas but overall just nothing that new. And watching it I realized it really isn’t about vampires but another form of undead – 90s hipster/slackers (which makes sense since Jim Jarmusch made it).

    Snow White and the Huntsman – I have no clue why I watched it. This was just garbage.

    Going to put on Hitchcock’s STAGE FRIGHT, one of his few movies I’ve never seen before.

    • Toadkillerdog says :

      Conti, i saw Bite The Bullet with hackman and coburn.
      It was good, slow moving at times, quirky and candace bergen totally miscast, but i liked it.
      I also watched man called sledge -i think i saw part of it a long time ago, it was interesting a bit heavy handed

      • Continentalop says :

        Never seen BITE THE BULLET but it’s always been on my list (that and THE HUNTING PARTY). I’m going to have to track it down.

      • tombando says :

        Used to own Bite the Bullet. Jan Mike Vincent! Gene Hackman! Ben Johnson! Horses!

        It Is slow but worthy. See Breakheart Pass for a doubleheader.

  35. tombando says :

    What else did I see besides American Skeet Shooter and Katy Perry? Hmmm. Gamera vs Brain eating Alien Women, Mstk3-fun!

    Empire of the Ants: Joan Collins, Ants on glass, Robert Lansing. 1977 crud. Wow bad as I remember.

    Coverage of all these Morons that don’t vaccinate their kids. They deserve what they get.

  36. Toadkillerdog says :

    incomprehensible. inconceivable.
    why did they pass?
    I can not stand the pats and their cheating ways.
    i cannot stand the apologists who always say’ they would have won no matter what’ as if
    1) that excuses the behavior
    2) it ignores the fact that the only reason you cheat is because you believe it helps you to win. otherwise why cheat?
    i have no great love of the hawks, i was happy they beat the broncos last year, but anyone but the pats.
    whoever made that call should lose their job.
    bunch of bullshit apologists on that side too.
    one yard, best shirt yardage back in game, just had run for four yards plenty of time on click, your best player, and you throw the damn ball?
    either was to send a message to lynch or bolster wilson, or to prove how smart you are. all failed. bellicheat fucked up the timeouts and still won.
    i dont hate brady much anymore, he loves the game and loves to win, cant fault that, but damn one damn yard

  37. Toadkillerdog says :

    i finally finished Breaking bad.
    i really enjoyed it, and i echo the comment of Tom or R2, i forget who said it, that when it was good it was great, but when it was bad it made no sense or something like that. some truly stupid choices by the writers at times but overall it was great

    • tombando says :

      Pete Carroll did a Marty Schottenheimer. A good time.

      Never seen Breaking Bad. Waren’t me Toad.

      Who was Ruf rooting for?

      Planning to check out some more Quinn Martin Production(tm) stuff, this time the Fbi.

      Cousin of mine in Eastport Maine reports 76 inches of snow in past 10 days. Time for the white flag and Miami !

      Katy Perry likes lions. Well that’s a start.

  38. Toadkillerdog says :

    dashcam catching that plane crash was incredible, SUV plane crash was tragic and just hard to understand
    isis continues to act like they grew up watching hollywood movies on how to be villains

  39. Continentalop says :

    75 best edited movies of all-time:


    1. “Raging Bull” (edited by Thelma Schoonmaker, 1980)
    2. “Citizen Kane” (edited by Robert Wise, 1941)
    3. “Apocalypse Now” (edited by Lisa Fruchtman, Gerald B. Greenberg, Walter Murch, 1979)
    4. “All That Jazz” (edited by Alan Heim, 1979)
    5. “Bonnie And Clyde” (edited by Dede Allen, 1967)
    6. “The Godfather” (edited by William H. Reynolds, Peter Zinner, 1972)
    7. “Lawrence of Arabia” (edited by Anne V. Coates, 1962)
    8. “Jaws” (edited by Verna Fields, 1975)
    9. “JFK” (edited by Pietro Scalia, Joe Hutshing, 1991)
    10. “The French Connection” (edited by Gerald B. Greenberg, 1971)

    Personally I think GOODFELLAS should be #1, but glad to see 7 out of the top 10, and 25 out of the 75 listed, are New Hollywood films (1967-1980).

  40. Continentalop says :

    I’m just going to say, I’d have totally slept with a young Joyce Grenfell.

  41. Just Pillow Talk says :

    Finished season one and through a few episodes in season two of Supernatural. It certainly picked up, with the cliffhanger of season one being great, Dean’s out of body experience, crossing paths with a vampire hunter, and the clown all being very solid.

    I’ve noticed that the light hearted episodes, they really seem to excel at.

  42. Continentalop says :

  43. tombando says :

    Weekend viewing–vhs marathon cont.:

    *1998 Broncos highlights, fun to see them win it all again w Elway, Terrell Davis, etc. Rod Smith. Dirty Birds rolled.

    *Gangs of New York-2002 would be Scorsese epic of 1860’s NYC, Leo, Day Lewis aping DeNiro, Diaz etc. Cameo app by Liam Neeson and the Civil War. Odd West Side Storyesque plot w large knifefights, the Draft riots and Day Lewis chewing up the Bowery. Not nearly as good as it was meant to be. Remote.

    *Unforgiven–1992 Clint reworking of High Plains Drifter, sorta. Like it but always felt it rambled. Nice turns by Clint, Hackman, Freeman. Odd Richard Harris arc, either get him and Clint in a shootout or don’t bother. Works though.

    *In the Line of Fire–1993 Clint as SS vet, staving off nutjob Malkovich’s prezzy assassination plot. I like his formica gun myself. John Mahoney, Rene Russo, Fred Thompson. Pretty good still.

    *The Others–2001 Nicole Kidman haunted house yarn. Icy, not badly acted, decent turns by the kids, she sees dead people too.

    *The 6th Sense–’99 Twilite Zone episode tale of ghostly shrink Bruce counselling troubled child medium Osment in Philly. Slow paced but still effective, no idea what became of That director after 2002…

    *The Bucky Dent game ’78. Fucking Piniella.

  44. Judge Droid says :

    Recent Viewing…

    The Judge – This was okay, thanks to a likeable cast. It’s way too long though. 140 minutes! The retarded brother was a cheap and horrible, blatantly obvious exposition tool.

    Fat City – Decent movie. Man, Bridges looks so young!

    European Vacation – Haven’t seen this for 20 years. I remembered it being funny. It’s not really. There are a couple of good jokes, but overall it’s a bit shit.

    Alexanders Horrible Day – Abbreviation of stupidly long title. A solid kids movie.

    From Russia With Love – I liked this. Could have done without the sister out for revenge being introduced and killed off in the matter of minutes. But pretty good.

    Goldfinger – This is pretty fun and I liked the silly evil plot to drive up the price of gold.

    This Is Where I Leave You – Home for the Holidays style dysfunctional family crap. It’s watchable thanks to a couple of likeable actors, but really who gives a shit about any of the characters?

    Big Eyes – An odd departure for Tim Burton and while it’s efficiently made and acted, I didn’t really get the feeling there was a great deal of interest in telling this story.

    About Time – Sentimental as shit and I was a little confused by some of the time travel (especially the taking the sister back bit) but that aside it’s harmless schmaltz. I didn’t mind it.

    • Just Pillow Talk says :

      I think I saw About Time….it was okay. It ran in the family, right?

      Goldfinger is very silly, he really did make Bond movies that were like Moore’s.

      I just watched him in November Man, which was decent. Olga, Olga, Olga….

      • Judge Droid says :

        Yeah. It was an ability passed on from father to son.

        Two things about the movie.

        1. It didn’t make use of the time travel enough in either plot or for comedy.

        2. Richard Curtis has mummy issues. This is the second movie he’s made where the love interest has the same name as the characters mum. The other one was Love Actually and Liam Neesons kid has a crush on a girl named Joanna (“Just like mum!”). Weird.

      • Toadkillerdog says :

        the biggest difference between Connery and everyone else including Moore is that Connery could pull off the menace and charm that Bond requires, as well as handle the physical action. Roger Moore was a light comedian, perfect for The Saint, but miscast as Bond. He tried to make up for it with humor. I liked some of the early Moore efforts, and he was incredible in For your Eyes only, but Bond should be more than a dude in a tux with a quip

      • Jarv says :

        The difference between Connery and the rest is that the rest (including Craig) could all handle one aspect of Bond, but not the lot-

        Moore- Humour and Quips
        Dalton- Believe he could actually kill someone
        Brosnan- Charm
        Lazneby- Horribly miscast, Charm at a push
        Craig- Violence.

        Connery is the only one that got across the beating shit out of someone and the charm.

    • Jarv says :

      Goldfinger – This is pretty fun and I liked the silly evil plot to drive up the price of gold.

      Arguably the best bond movie.

      Recent viewing:

      Grimm and Constantine- good, really good, episode of the former and another meh fest in the latter.
      ASM2- shite. Better than ASM1
      The Lego Movie: EVERYTHING IS AWESOME!!! Actually, surprisingly good, considering it’s an extended toy ad.

      • Judge Droid says :

        It’s definitely up there with the best I’ve seen. But I haven’t seen that many.

        As previously discussed, I liked ASM2 even with its multitude of problems. Lego’s okay.

      • Just Pillow Talk says :

        I wasn’t crazy about the Lego movie. Put aside the ending that everyone went gaga for, and most of the jokes fell flat.

        AS2 has the best comic book relationship realized and horrible shit motivations for the villains.

      • Just Pillow Talk says :

        After a few really good episodes, Constantine has had a couple really average ones in a row.

      • Toadkillerdog says :

        Love Goldfinger. It was the quintessential Bond, the quips, the car, the song and the very height of his popularity and also the beginning of the gadget Bond. But my money goes on From Russia with Love as the best Bond of them all.
        The locations, the women, the villains and Connery was locked in as Bond. The suavity and the menace.
        It also was one of the tightest just in terms of story telling. Just a great flick all around.

        Spidey back in the MCU!

      • tombando says :

        Bonds have either not seen or have forgotten totally: Living Daylights, the one with Lazenby, the one with Sydow, For Your Eyes Only. I have always seen the same parts of these it seems, or plain forgot what I did watch. Sadly Have watched Moonraker, Quantam, etc

      • Jarv says :

        Living Daylights is a big ball of meh.
        For Your Eyes Only ditto.
        Sydow doesn’t count, because that was Never say Never again.

        Connery’s best film is one of Goldfinger, FRWL, or Thunderball.

        Worst is easily Diamonds are Forever. Crap.

        Moore’s best is The Spy Who Loved me.
        Worst is probably Moonraker

        Lazenby’s OHMSS is actually a good film.

        Dalton’s best is License to Kill. Both are crap though
        Brosnan’s best is GOldeneye by a country mile. Rest are crap.
        Craig’s best is CR- worst is Quantum, but Skyfall sucks a fat one too.

      • tombando says :

        Oh I saw that…I meant ‘You Only Live Twice’, for some reason thought Sydow was in it. I’ve seen the ’83 one(s).

      • Toadkillerdog says :

        Pretty much agree with Jarv on Connery’s best, although I would flip FRWL with Goldfinger.
        Diamonds, well as I have said before that was my very first Bond flick. Mom literally dragged me kicking and screaming – hey I was 5 or 6 tops, to see it and I was hooked ever since. But yes, I cringe at how bad it is when i look at it now.

      • Continentalop says :

        I am with Toad in that I like DIAMONDS. Not the best Connery film, but not the worst (that goes to YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE imo). And I admit it has lots of flaws, but DIAMONDS does have two of the best Bond henchmen ever, Mr. Kidd and Mr. Wint.

      • Continentalop says :

        Favorite Connery Bond is GOLDFINGER.
        Favorite that Connery should have been in Is HMSS.
        Favorite Moore is LIVE AND LET DIE.
        Favorite Dalton is LICENSE TO KILL (or LIVE AND LET DIE REDUX)
        Favorite Brosnon – jesus, I can’t think of one I actually liked.
        Favorite Craig – CASINO ROYALE. The other two have been horrible letdowns.

      • Jarv says :

        Favorite Moore is LIVE AND LET DIE.

        Nah- Spy Who Loved Me is Moore’s best, easily. And it’s arguably got the best opening to any of them.

      • Continentalop says :

        I don’t know. LALD has a great villain (Yaphet Kotto), a great Bond girl (Jane Seymour), a memorable henchman (Tee Hee), a “realistic” plot, the first black Bond girl, and the best Bond chase scene (the boats) and the best Bond song (so good they used it for score, and one that I give a slight edge over “Nobody Does It Better”).

        I think LALD edges out TSWLM.

      • Jarv says :

        LALD did not have a realistic plot on any level.

        And McCartney sucks. And is s massive twat

      • Continentalop says :

        McCartney might be a twat, but he nailed that song.

        And if flooding the US with heroin to create a market and drive out competitors is unrealistic, than what do you call the plot of TSWLM which involves WWII, recreating civilization and underwater cities?

      • Jarv says :

        Zombies, underground labs, fat suits, fake psychics etc are not realistic.

        I don’t mind unrealistic plots in bond films , just embrace the lunacy- which SWLM does to a tee

    • Continentalop says :

      I think FAT CITY is a great movie, droid. One of the best boxing movies ever IMO. And Stacey Keach and Susan Tyrill are great in it (if hard to watch).

  45. Just Pillow Talk says :

    Also halfway through season two of Supernatural.

    • Judge Droid says :

      This is where it starts to get good. The first season was a typical first season for a show like this. Mostly MOTW cause they don’t know if there’s going to be a second season. But now they can commit to a bigger story. And it’s a good one.

      • Just Pillow Talk says :

        Yeah, I like that now every episode has a bit that’s part of a larger framework. The dealio with Sam and all the other telekinetics is interesting, Dean reaffirming his wanted status with the shapeshifter #2 bank robber…..

  46. Continentalop says :

    Recently viewed:

    THE THIN MAN – an eternal classic. “I’m a hero. I was shot twice in the Tribune.” “I read where you were shot 5 times in the tabloids.” “It’s not true. He didn’t come anywhere near my tabloids.”

    GONE, BABY, GONE – slips a little bit the second time watching it, but still a very good modern PI movie. Would rather watch a Kenzie and Gennaro series than another True Detective series on HBO.

    NETWORK – A true masterpiece. Sydney Lumet at his peak. “I’m mad as Hell and I am not going to take it anymore.”

    BATTLEGROUND – an almost forgotten WWII drama from 1949 about the 327th Glider Infantry Regiment of the 101st Airborne Division during the Siege of Bastogne. One of the best war movies ever made IMO. It doesn’t have the gritty violence or high production values of SPR or FURY or BAND OF BROTHERS, but has an authenticity none of them can match (not even BoB). Between screenwriter Robert Poirish (who served as a master sergeant in WWII and was involved in the Battle of the Ardennes), director “WIld Bill” Wellman (who was in the Ambulance Corp. and then as Legionnaire during WWI), and the technical advisors they hired (20 veterans of the Battle of the Bulge, who also served as extras), the film puts in enough little touches that only men who were there or saw combat would probably know about. And unlike earlier war movies or modern WWII movies, these guys are neither superheroes or noble martyrs (no John Waynes or Tom Hanks to be seen). The acting and characterizations might be dated, but the actual human behavior they display is timeless. They slack off, bitch, scheme to get off the front line, and sometimes contemplate deserting or fleeing. There is heroism and nobility amongst them, but also cowardice and selfishness, making them feel more real than the squad from central casting Spielberg had in SPR.

    Highly recommend.

    Also finished season one of ORANGE IS THE NEW BLACK, which I liked a lot. And halfway through season 2 of THE AMERICANS, which is also pretty damn good at times.

    About to start PENNY DREADFUL.

    • tombando says :

      What was that WW2 Robert Ryan flick set in France? ’50’s? He’s a GI. Sounds alot like this and Big Red One….

    • Jarv says :

      Penny Useless is dire. Consider this your warning

      • Continentalop says :

        Wait. I thought you guys liked Penny Dreadful. Damn, did I get mixed up?

      • Jarv says :

        Nope. Hated it.

      • Continentalop says :

        Well, fuck me…

      • Xiphos0311 says :

        Penny Dreadful is fucking terrible truly stupendously awful garbage. Even the French bint doing full frontal can’t hide the woeful acting by everybody not named Prince Barin and the terrible writing. Butt chin’s story and acting belong in an entirely different show.

      • Continentalop says :

        Only saw the first episode so far, which I thought was pretty good save for some big liberties taken with an iconic horror character. But part of the reason I might have dug the pilot was that it reminded me of RPG campaign I played as a teen for a game called CHILL.

        Please don’t wedgie me.

      • Jarv says :

        It gets much much worse.

      • Continentalop says :

        Now I’ve lost a lot of motivation to watch episode 2.

    • Xiphos0311 says :

      OITNB lead chick is annoying as fuck and boring as hell. The other inmates however are interesting. I tried to read the book and Piper is 1000s time more self involved and annoying. I couldn’t finish that self serving Bullshit.

      The Americans, to me. is a big resounding MEH. the Husband needs to shoot Felicity in the head and everybody will be happy.

      • Continentalop says :

        I actually think the point of Piper is to be annoying and whiny. She is spoiled, privileged, and narcissistic, so I don’t think you’re really supposed to like her that much.

        My favorite character in season one was Pennsatucky. But she also exemplified that the show is more than a little classist.

      • Xiphos0311 says :

        Its not the point its whats he is and what makes her entirely uninteresting. She’s just plain dumb.

  47. Judge Droid says :


    Dumb and Dumber To – I really like the original. This is nowhere near as good. It’s not very funny, spends a lot of time and energy replicating imagery from the original, and it’s kind of mean spirited.

    Get Smart – This is okay. Forgettable entertainment. Could have just been a silly spy action comedy instead of Get Smart because the weakest parts of the movie are the references to the TV show.

    Nightcrawler – Gyllenhaal is very good. One of the best performances of last year that I’ve seen. Overall it effectively takes a shit on the news, even if it does border on silly towards the end. The film does steadily escalate so the trashy last act kind of works as a reflection of the subject matter. Good flick.

    • Continentalop says :

      My biggest problem with NIGHTCRAWLER is that it is already dated. The LA it shows, and how local the news stations operate, seems more like 2000 or 2001 and not 2014 or 2015. And the ending gets a little ridiculous.

      • Judge Droid says :

        How does it seem like 10+ years ago LA? What makes it seem like that?

      • Continentalop says :

        Well for one, crime was worst 10 years ago. And it still was way lower around 2002 than it was in 1992. So the idea of selling fear of crime was much bigger in the early 2000s than now. Local news stations still do crime stories but it isn’t there biggest emphasis. And the way the movie presents LA as this dark and scary place is very much from an earlier era.

        The other things is that stringers is a dying industry. They’d never get an exclusive deal, and LA cops jam their radio calls now so stringers have no idea what an emergency call is about. On top of it with cell phone cameras everyone is taking videos of accidents as they happen and putting them up for free, making the videos stringers get not that valuable.

      • Continentalop says :

        In 2013 Los Angeles had 246 homicides and a murder rate of 6.3 per 100,000.

        In 2003 we had 515 homicides and a rate of 13.4.

        In 1993 we had 1,076 homicides and a rate of 30.5 (over 4x what we have nowadays).

        The LA that NIGHTCRAWLER presents is long past.

      • Judge Droid says :

        The murder rate thing is interesting, but I don’t think that really changes the way news channels operate. They still sensationalise and fear monger. The “Sydney Siege” recently showed that.
        The dying industry of stringers however is a good point.

    • Xiphos0311 says :

      That shitty last act really fucked Nightcrawler.

  48. tombando says :

    Fave Moore is Spy Who Loved Me. But I do have a fondness for Moonraker despite it being really the Congo of the series.

  49. tombando says :

    Waiting for Kloipy to bite the bullet and review Harold’s first episode of that Kickstarter thingie he did. I am thinking a few fifths are in order to get thru it?!

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