Burt Gummer’s Rec Room September 2011 Archive

A gathering place for firearms enthusiasts, paranoid survivalists and those who worship at the Church of Chang

Summer’s gone now, but it’s still dry and dusty as hell here in Perfection. Best prepare for the next Graboid hunting season.

Disclaimer: This is the part of the Church that is the most no holds barred. None of it is intended with malice, and although it can on occasion seem a little bit fraught, it is banter rather than venom.

2,281 responses to “Burt Gummer’s Rec Room September 2011 Archive”

  1. Droid says :

    Naw Drive won’t stay on that list once some more people see it. Also you pick that over Tree of Life? Hehehehehehe ok.

    Is this to me, Koutch? Cause I haven’t seen Drive and didn’t like TOL.

  2. Droid says :

    Best Film:

    127 Hours, Rango, Black Swan, Animal Kingdom


    Franco (127 Hours)


    Weaver (Animal Kingdom). Portman (Black Swan)


    Stakeland, I guess.


    Green Hornet

    Changian Movie:

    Fast Five.

    The Murph:

    Pirates of the Carribean 4

  3. Kloipy says :

    Posting this again-
    Just watched Troll Hunter on Netflix (now on instant view) the other night. It’s pretty good, not great. But you at least get to see the trolls and the effects are pretty good. Runs out of steam in parts but overall it’s pretty cool. Only part that bugged me was the tacked on ‘This footage was found blah blah blah’ at the beginning or end. I think at this point we don’t need this for any ‘found footage’ films. Just let it play like it is

    • Jarv says :

      Cool. Quite looking forward to it. Although I’m over found footage films/

    • D.Vader says :

      I saw it on the bigscreen last month. Its an enjoyable flick, and the Troll effects are extremely well done.

      I just HATED the fucking ending. Dunno how you felt about it, Koutch, but I thought the ending was absolutely terrible. Like they shot in sequence and ran out of money at the very end and just said “Fuck it.”

  4. Droid says :

    Troll Hunter was hyped? Maybe because I saw it quite a while ago, but it barely got any interest when I saw it.

  5. Droid says :

    Rare Exports is great.

    Where were you hearing about the films?

    Tron 2 is nice to look at for a while, but boring as fuck and the floating head thing is distracting. It does have a good soundtrack though. Not as good as Hanna’s. That would get my vote for soundtrack of the year.

  6. Droid says :

    Okay. I don’t go to any of those except for AICN on the rare occasion. I must’ve missed the hype.

  7. Kloipy says :

    Jonah- you saw A Lonely Place to Die? I just heard of it and looks awesome to me. I’m all about survival thrillers, and speaking of underrated, I believe The Edge is really underrated

  8. Droid says :

    The Edge is a great film. I also like survival films. When the characters aren’t complete fucking retards (*cough*Frozen*cough*) and the film plays fair (*cough*Buried*cough*).

    The trailer for Edge(s) with Wolves looks good too.

    • Jarv says :

      Frozen. Single dumbest thing in Cinema, when the moron jumps off.

      • Kloipy says :

        see I didn’t think it was that stupid, stupid yes, but not the dumbest thing ever. You get in a bad situation like that some people panic and do dumb things. You want stupid, watch Hatchet 2 which is one of the worst horror movies of the last 10 years (aside from some good gore)
        Droid- I too am looking forward to The Grey

      • Jarv says :

        Kloipy, for a platinum stinker- check out Insidious or My Soul to Take.

        Ouch. Terrible. Aside from the funny bit with the little girl at the start of MSTT, it’s genuinely awful.

      • koutchboom says :

        Yeah Kloipy Indisious is up there with Descent in terms of horror.

        I sort of agree with both of you when it comes to Frozen, it was dumb those people were dumb but overall I think the movie was half decent. It was no SPIRAL of course. And I recorded Hatchet 2 the other night since my dog ate the netflix of it, I enjoyed Hatchet 1 so I expect more of the same.

      • Kloipy says :

        I do want to watch Insidious as it seems people are really on the love it-hate it with that one which I like to judge for myself. I don’t think I could sit through MSTT, I could barely make it through the trailer of that one
        I hated Hatchet 1, thought it was offensive, not because of content, but because it thought it was a lot more clever-funny-scary than it was. And Victor Crowley is no Jason Vorhees. But Hatchet 2, was just terrible. It is really really bad. All the jokes fall flat, it has absolutely no structure, and it’s just plain boring. Like a scene where Crowley attacks these guys with what looks to be a 20 foot chainsaw. It’s not cool, it’s just stupid

      • Echo the Bunnyman says :

        Maybe so, but Frozen was effective for what it was…and to be sure, people do stupid things in such scenarios all the time. I will give you its not as satisfying to watch.

        A Lonely Place to Die is survival horror not in the strict sense like Frozen or Buried, but closer to Edge, Deliverance, Descent, in that a group of people find themselves facing an enemy in a wilderness setting and don’t have the cover of modern society to aid them. It’s not a supernatural or monster film. Should say that up front.

      • Echo the Bunnyman says :

        Also, look for it in Hatchet 2, Koutch…it reveals that the gal did survive in Frozen. She’s being interviewed on the tv at one point.

        Nicest thing about Hatchet 2 is that it continues to allow Tony Todd to purchase Bloomin Onions.

      • koutchboom says :

        I REALLY REALLY REALLY WANT to like whats his fuck who directed Hatchet 1-2, Frozen and SPIRAL….mainly for SPIRAL. Just because he seems like a nice guy and I like how he’s varying his work in horror. ALSO everyone needs to watch SPIRAL. I know I’ve over hyped it a little, it’s not the end all of cinema, its just very good and well acted.

      • Echo the Bunnyman says :

        Jeez, you are really going to DRIVE it into the ground with Spiral, aren’t you?

        I think we have talked about this before. I agree. Spiral was underrated, and Joel Moore gave a really creepy performance. But I think you can’t go in over-hyped on Spiral. It’s kind of sleight, ultimately isn’t it?

        I think it worked so well for me because I knew nothing and it started by underwhelming me. Spiral and Frozen,I think, are good examples of his talent.

        I hate the Hatchet movies, but you know that Green just sees them as like a holiday. I think doing two of them so close together sort of puts a damper on his credibility though, in general circles.

      • koutchboom says :

        Yeah that’s why I don’t want to over hype Spiral because it’s not one of those movies.

    • Kloipy says :

      Droid if you like survival stuff you should check out the show ‘I shouldn’t Be Alive’ that used to be on the Discovery Channel. It has recreations of crazy survival stories and the actual recreations aren’t that bad. Some stuff is too crazy to be false

  9. Droid says :

    You agree with Koutch even though you haven’t seen Hanna? How does that work?

    • koutchboom says :

      Track 19 is a banging track though. I will say Hanna score destroys the Social Network score. It’s not as Epic as the Tron score, that’s what’s holding it back.

    • Jarv says :

      Tend to agree with him about music in general.

      Not about Hanna in specific. I reserve judgement until I’ve watched it.

      • Jarv says :

        Lovely night off to beer garden.

      • Echo the Bunnyman says :

        IMO, Koutch is actually pretty right-on with music stuff. I certainly agree with more on that than films. Like you said, Tron score is a better piece of overall music. I like Hanna, but it all feels like snippets with filler. Hollander’s theme music–that crazy Swedish themepark music–is the only thing I can distinctly remember, while all of Legacy just feels like one flowing piece.

        Both though are very good, and as Tigh mentioned before, Basement Jaxx did good with ATB too.

        I wish I could nom ATB for underrated, but while general public know little about it, it got stroked to death in geek circles.

  10. Echo the Bunnyman says :

    Also, I’m actually gonna nominate Battle L.A. as underrated, alongside Innkeepers. It’s not a great movie, but the critical consesus would have you believe it’s a pile of crap. It’s actually a decent entertainment, and if they had dropped the first act and some of the more showy shaky cam, it could have been a very good one.

  11. koutchboom says :

    I need to see this:


    and Cargo damnit.

  12. koutchboom says :

    Look were this movie was filmed:


  13. Echo the Bunnyman says :

    Ok, here’s my list, reconsidered with other choices, since I forgot about everything at the end of last year after October:

    Best Film:

    The Black Swan, Rango, Tree of Life (wth, why not?), Midnight in Paris

    Brad Pitt in TOL, Andy Serkis for Apes (yes, it was a performance)


    Portman (Black Swan), Britt Marling (Another Earth), Melissa George (A Lonely Place to Die)




    The Innkeepers, Battle L.A.

    Changian Movie:

    Fast Five, Rare Exports, A Lonely Place to Die, Attack the Block

    The Murph:

    Hobo With a Shotgun, How Does She Do It?, Hall Pass

    suggested new categories:

    Best score: Tron Legacy, Don’t Be Afraid of the Dark, Hanna

    Best documentary: Project Nim, Everyday Sunshine

  14. koutchboom says :

    I think this could be OK, but I’d like to hear CONTI’s take on Newman at hand…..

  15. koutchboom says :

    Another reason why I’d put the Tron Score, and now listening to the Attack The Block Score ahead of the Hanna score, is that they MADE A SCORE. Hanna suffers like The Social network score from sounding too much like left over tracks from their last cd, while Daft created a world with their music and infused their sensibilities into it.

    Looking into Attack’s score, I don’t know how much Jaxx’s had to do with it? They seem to have just added a song to it? Steve Price (rugby league) (born 1974), Australian rugby league footballer seems to have been the guy behind it, and it’s pretty good (heheh it reminds me of Tron a little). Soooo Attack has a proper full score because it was done by a guy who makes movie scores, though this seems to be is first major one.

  16. ThereWolf says :

    Apologies for not flying the Moonwolf flag much recently – just busy with all kinds of bollocks. Metaphorically, not literally. Not even been watching any films. Bad Wolf.

    I’ll try and get back on it.

    • kloipy says :

      Miss ya wolf! Hope you are doing good my friend

    • Continentalop says :

      No need to apologize Mr. Wolf. Completely understandable.

      But I do miss your reviews (you usually have the funniest captions for you photos).

    • Droid says :

      No need to apologise, Wolf. We all need a break from this place once in a while. And it’s no one’s obligation to write reviews, or be a constant presence in the Rec Room. Feel free to fly the flag as little or as much as you want. I haven’t written a review for a couple of months now. I think Cap might have been the last one I did. That’s partly due to the steady flow of reviews that have been posted by others, partly because I’ve been working on different things in whatever spare time I get, and partly because I was feeling like my reviews were a bit stale. My holiday might rejeuvenate my interest in writing reviews. Need to completely forget about work and things for a week or two.

    • Xiphos0311 says :

      lazy bugger.

  17. kloipy says :

    FUCK. YES.

  18. Droid says :

    I suppose it was inevitable…

    American Pie 4 Poster

  19. Just Pillow Talk says :

    Watched Thor last night, and it wasn’t bad. I would say it was defnitely one of the better ‘origin’ stories in the superhero genre, all the performances were good to decent, pretty good action, and considering the character, handled much better that I thought originally possible. I don’t know how it would hold up to multiple viewings though.

    • Jarv says :

      Yeah, it’s not bad is it.

      I may review Mansquito, except I was pissed and can’t remember it properly. Dead Heat is another option. I’m a bit burnt out, because of doing one of the Haskell Diaries daily.

      In other news: I’ve been quoted in the Telegraph!

      Toby Flood (England rugby player): “He doesn’t dominate a room like James Haskell” came straight from the Haskell Diaries! HUZZAH!!!

    • Jarv says :

      I was pleasantly surprised at it.

      • Echo the Bunnyman says :

        Jarv’s other Kill List review going up in a few. Damn you by the way, I’m obsessed with seeing it now and no way to do so. It will prolly show up sooner than later over here. I started reading those spoilers and stopped. Arrgh.

        And here’s my review for 50/50,
        For 50/50, it wasnt the movie I expected. Gonna have to amend that best actor thing and throw one out there for JGL for a Golden Chang. He’s finally starting to be the actor Harry and others have been pimping him as since Brick.


        Note: All normal WOTMers can ignore this but if any mouth-breathing troll wants to question why I post my articles here, it’s not for hits, it’s for the same reason anyone else pops in and says’ posted such and such’. To share the stuff we work on. Anyone who starts bitching again is just getting this paragraph posted to them ad nauseum.

      • Jarv says :


        It’s a doozy as well. This will live in your brain like a little parasite. It’s superbly foreshadowed at the start as well, but you’ll forget until after the film, when it will occur to you. A really good Metaphorical use of Ibsen’s law of drama.

      • koutchboom says :

        See this is what I was talking about:

        Note: All normal WOTMers can ignore this but if any mouth-breathing troll wants to question why I post my articles here, it’s not for hits, it’s for the same reason anyone else pops in and says’ posted such and such’. To share the stuff we work on. Anyone who starts bitching again is just getting this paragraph posted to them ad nauseum.

        I thought you had learned your lesson…obviously you have not. I don’t care if you post your links, fine. And to some extent I’ve gotten through to you because you’ve not become an active member of the group. But this snide little shit was what I said was going to happen.

      • Echo the Bunnyman says :

        Koutch, which one are you?

        ‘normal WOTMer’ or ‘mouth breathing troll’?

        I didn’t say Koutch nor was it intended for you specifically.

      • koutchboom says :

        Oh you know what you were doing, like I said I don’t care if you post your links that’s fine. Just don’t brush someone off like you are better than them, then not back your shit up.

      • Echo the Bunnyman says :

        I know you followed up the ‘posting comments’ but that wasn’t aimed at you. It was aimed at the person who targeted Kloipy a few weeks ago.
        No one is being brushed off. I’ve never uttered a truly negative word at anyone here. Making a Transformers comment, or a Tintin comment isn’t the same.

        I gave you last week as a gift. But you won’t come on here and antagonize regulars, myself or othwerise, in this way. Debating film, even arguments are fine, but no deliberate trolling or slander. It’s just movies, man.

        I’ve remained silent, but the line in the sand is there, Koutch.

        I honestly like you. I enjoy talking movies with you. If you were truly offended by last week’s transformers comment, than consider this a formal apology. I’m sorry. But, you set the tone, and if you are going to be snarky aggressive, that;’s a greenlight for others to be the same.

        You are one of the WOTM, not a mouth-breating troll. Just remember we are on the same team.

      • koutchboom says :

        Fine if that honestly was directed at that one guy then fine, whatever I don’t care about him, it was probably Frank.

      • Jarv says :

        It wasn’t.

        It wasn’t his style, and it was also posted from America.

    • Echo the Bunnyman says :

      I liked Thor too. Oddly, I havent been tempted into another viewing. I feel that way about pretty much all of the summer’s comic book movies this go-round.

  20. koutchboom says :

    Watched the season finale of Alphas last night, it is overseen (or so they say there have been rumors that he’s off the show, but he still gets writing credits and executive producer credits) by Zach Penn of X-Men 3/Elektra/Avengers/Inspector Gadget fame, and it’s easily the best thing he’s been in charge of. I wonder if he just needed to get away from any mytho’s and create his own to show the world the promise that obviously someone sees in him.

    It really is the show you thought Heroes would be, and it looks so much better than it. I’d say it’s one of the best looking shows on TV. Most shows suffer from episode in episode out repetition of style/look/direction, every Alpha’s episode tries something a little different. It doesn’t always work and sometimes you can see the budget constraints, but it’s more acceptable for a show with it’s probably small budget compared to a show with a giant budget that looks like shit. Good show hopefully it comes to BBC2 there are some shit.

    • Echo the Bunnyman says :

      Alphas is much better than Heroes and probably cost the amount of the craft services table. Better written too.

      • koutchboom says :

        What do you think of the Rainman kid? At first I was like….ehhhhh, but I don’t think he’s too overly “special” acting, I’d say he’s one of the more unique thought out “special” needs whatever characters I’ve seen. DId you see the finale? When he went apeshit?

      • Echo the Bunnyman says :

        Not yet, it’s waiting for the weekend.

        I think he’s handled fine, sure it’s pitched at a genre show level, but he works. I worked with special needs individuals for years and Im usually sensitive to those portrayals but I honestly think that one is fine. It doesn’t overreach and the show doesn’t define him by that one trait.

      • koutchboom says :

        The weakest character I think is the former cop/strength dude. He’s ok…it just seems like his ability sort of sucks. It’s funny though how sure some of their abilities are slight rip offs of other things, but they’ve managed to make them feel unique and not silly like heroes.

      • Jarv says :

        Heroes wasn’t silly. It was, if I had to pick a word for it, ponderous.

        It needed to embrace the nuttyness, and instead it was so up its own arse with portentious crap, that it grew stifled. Not to mention that the villains in it were just lame.

      • Echo the Bunnyman says :

        It’s sort of Heroes meets the X-Files isnt it? It’s less sillier than both though.

        You seen Persons of Interest yet?

      • koutchboom says :

        Yeah, but it keeps away from the silly aspects of both shows. Not 100% sure i loved the way the series ended, but it was interesting. My favorite episode was with the guy who can cause rage riots, the way that was shot was nuts for a tv show and pretty brutal as well.

        Haven’t seen Person’s of Interest yet, it’s time slot is fucking me. It’s on the same time as The Office/Grey’s/American Idol 2….all of which take precedence in my household to it…so hopefully CBS plays some repeats or I get U-Verse. I guess I could watch it online, but I already gotta watch the first two episodes of Clone Wars online since I missed them. Wait…CBS doesn’t put their shit online I don’t think. You seen it? Any good?

        I haven’t gotten around to Terra Nova either I’ve got it recorded though.

      • Echo the Bunnyman says :

        Heroes was totally silly Jarv, but it wasn’t good silly–it wasn’t cheerfully goofy, it was ponderous, but in its’ ponderous nature, it grew silly. Consider all the freakin monologues about evolution, or how easily Sylar was dispatched or how they handled the time travel.

        Silly, mixed with ponderous, which is like the kiss of death.

      • Jarv says :

        What happened to Sylar? How did the series end?

      • koutchboom says :

        The good think about Alphas is that its more episode of the week then long running story line. Like you can pick up any episode and follow it just fine, but if you watch it all you get more from the characters, after Lost I’m starting to enjoy those shows mores so than shows you need to watch every fucking episode to get everything about them.

        Warehouse 13 is this way as well. Fuck with Alphas/Warehouse 13/Face Off/Being Human….SyFy may be my favorite channel at the moment. Also I guess that one show I thought looked like some cool hybred of the island of Dr Moreau and some post apocalyptic future isn’t a new show but has been on for some time called Sanctuary, may watch it this season though.

        AND there redo event of the year looks to be much better then previous years…granted the trailers to those previous events also looked awesome. The new Pete Pan with the villain from The Amazing Spiderman as hook and the great Bob Hoskins returning to his iconic role of Smee could be a lot of fun…I HOPE…more so than there previous efforts of Wizzard of Oz and Alive in Wonderland I think. It may be some BBC production IDK? But it looks cool.

      • Echo the Bunnyman says :

        wait. series ended, or season ended? Is it over? That’s it? It’s not going to be coming back?

      • Echo the Bunnyman says :

        is hoskins really playing Smee again?

        I recently read Barry’s Peter and the Starcatchers. That was a clever scifi take on the material.

      • Echo the Bunnyman says :

        I was referring to the dumb way in which they ‘killed’ him at the end of season one, and then what they did with him in season 2.

        Heroes was silly in the same way a soap opera is silly. Soap operas take maudlin, half-baked plotlines and treat them like Greek drama. That’s the same for Heroes.

      • koutchboom says :

        Season ended, it’s been picked up for season 2.

      • koutchboom says :

        Of course Bob Hoskins is Smee…after Hook how could anyone even get near that perfection?


      • Echo the Bunnyman says :

        Hoskins as Smee was the only sensible casting in all of Hook. I was fine with him.

    • koutchboom says :

      FUCK…its from the same director/writer who did Alice and Tin Man…..sooo now it’s not looking as good. I think the problem with them is that they are too long, they should be like 3 hours max not 4.

      Damn he directed both the Martain Short Alice in Wonder land mini series and the recent SyFy one.

      • Echo the Bunnyman says :

        Oh, it’s gonna suck probably.

        Alice and Tinman were boring and cheap. Also, haphazardly thought-out. Alice really gets the crap end of the stick when it comes to adaptations doesn’t it? Isn’t the Disney cartoon the only truly good one?

  21. koutchboom says :

    Also Parks and Rec has been awesome with these first two episodes. What happens to Ron Swanson in the second episode….when you see it just think about Lt. Dangle from Reno 911.

  22. Kloipy says :

    Does anyone here watch The League? That show is funny as hell

    • koutchboom says :

      Yeah I watched it, it’s ok, it has it’s moments I don’t love it though.

      • Kloipy says :

        it’s hard to find good comedy these days- only stuff on at the moment I consider worthy of watching in comedy is The League, It’s Always Sunny In Philadelphia, Louie, Modern Family, and American Dad

      • koutchboom says :

        Did you catch the season opener of American Dad? The Little Shop of Horrors spoof? I thought it was the best it’s been in a while.

        I don’t mind the League, it just doesn’t stick with me, sort of like Archer.

      • Kloipy says :

        American Dad is seriously one of the funniest shows on right now. It gets better with repeat viewings as well. It’s not all one-off jokes like Family Guy, and the characters are great. I missed the opener, but hope to catch it on Hulu. Archer is funny on and off.

      • Kloipy says :

        but also with that list, I almost hesitate to put Louie on there as a comedy. It’s more of just drama with really dark humor in places. But it is great

      • Echo the Bunnyman says :

        I’ve never seen American Dad. Worth a look? I dont particularly enjoy FG, and I only saw one ep of the Cleveland Show, being that one where they went to Comic Con.

      • Droid says :

        I can’t stand Family Guy, and I found the first season (the only one I’ve seen) of American Dad fairly amusing. So it’s worth a go. But I wouldn’t go out of my way to watch it. If it’s on tv and whatnot.

      • Echo the Bunnyman says :

        Ill give it a go then, like you said, when it’s on.

      • koutchboom says :

        That Cleveland Show Comic con one, and the wisconsin one were ok. There was also one where he becomes a drug dealer that was ok. It tries harder to be more like Family Guy than American Dad does.

        American Dad is pretty solid, I mean it has its hits and misses, but usually its misses are just sort of unforgettable. When it parodies stuff its really good, there’s a James Bond parody that’s pretty good, and that recent Little Shop Spoof was solid, there are a few more in there. There’s an episode where Stan has dreams of being an ice skater, the George Clooney episode is also good.

        Louie is good, much better this season I thought then last, also much better than his last show which was just rehash of his stand up bits. This is much more fleshed out.

      • Echo the Bunnyman says :

        Cleveland Show seemed too obvious and lazy, sort of like FG, but with a few more inspired bits. It may come down to the fact I dont want to kill Cleveland in the same way I want to do away with Peter Griffin.

        You know you are just shooting fish in a barrel, when you have taken the time to stage an animated fight between harry knowles and kevin smith.

      • koutchboom says :

        ) wordpress won’t let me edit comments at the moment.

    • koutchboom says :

      American Dad is on Sundays on Fox, I’m not sure if its on before or after Family Guy right now. Sometime between 8-10 your time I think. You should check Hulu and see if they put up that Little Shop episode, may not be up till Sunday (FYI they got Cee-Lo green to play the voice of “Audry 2” type thing and yes they kind of hammer that point home that they got him, but I thought he was funny.

    • Xiphos0311 says :

      The League is really good it’s especially funny if you know anybody that plays fantasy football the show kicks those nerds square the nuts.

      • Kloipy says :

        Yeah Xi, I know a few who play and it makes it all the more enjoyable.
        Jonah- start off with American Dad season 2 (all seasons except last one are available for instant on Netflix)

    • Droid says :

      The only comedy shows I watch or am watching at the moment are:

      Parks and Rec: Consistently funny.
      30 Rock: Getting a little bit same old same old now, but still occasionally very funny.
      Wilfred: The Australian version. Seen one season. Weird but funny.
      Community: I don’t really know why I watch it. It’s neither funny or unfunny. I don’t like it or dislike it. I kind of nothing it. I’ve never laughed at it. I’ve smirked. Not very often, but it’s happened.

      And that’s about it. Until I get the inkling to rewatch Flight of the Conchords again.

      • Echo the Bunnyman says :

        I know what you mean about Community. I just sort of stared at it last night, counting the minutes to P&R. I would say that if something isn’t making me laugh, I don’t consider it funny, but I know what you are getting at. It’s not funny persay, but it isn’t like a complete embarrassing miss.

        I had the misfortune of sitting through ten minutes of that Whitney show and it’s in the embarrasingly unfunny designation.

        You ever watch Modern Family Droid? Im sure this has been asked before, but dont recall the answer.

      • koutchboom says :

        I watched all of Whitney last night, I don’t think it’s as bad as people say. It’s not great, but in terms of LIVE STUDIO AUDIENCE shows at the moment….it may be the best….but that’s not saying much. Mainly because of her boyfriend he got some good laughs out of me, I’ve seen him in some other stuff and he’s pretty funny.

        As for other new comedies…well I’ve only seen two Free Agents and Up All Night….they are Ok I doubt any of you would like them. Up All Night LOOKS like it could go somewhere. I’ve only seen one episode of Free Agents.

      • Jarv says :

        American Dad can be brilliant. The Bond spoof was spectacular.

        Misfits is back soon, and although every fibre of my being is telling me not to watch, now Nathan has gone, I’m compelled to tune in.

        *fingers crossed for improvement*

      • Echo the Bunnyman says :

        With Whitney it’s not just the writing that’s forced, it’s their delivery. They actually pause too much for the laugh-track. Uggh. And while she and her boyfriend could probably be appealing actors, they don’t play appealing characters. Too dumb for that. I want a Halloween episode where the Paranormal Activity monster comes in and terrorizes them for a half hour before killing them dead. And air it next week.

      • Droid says :

        I think Community could be very funny if it was made by people who knew how to write a decent joke and not just reference pop culture. Because it’s all there. All the pieces are in place. It’s actually a great idea for a show, because you can essentially have a constant rotation of characters. And the main characters are identifiably different enough that the show could shift focus to any of them and be entertaining. It’s not like Friends where they’re just different shades of the same preppy white middle class suburban college graduate.

        So yeah, if it was wriiten by people who were funny I think it would be a great show.

      • Droid says :

        Hated Modern Family.

      • Echo the Bunnyman says :

        how many you see, Droid?

        I watched 2 to 3 the first season, and came away with a less severe stance, but didn’t care much for it. Someone gave us season 1, and now I think it’s, as Kloipy said, just about the funniest thing on American network television.

      • koutchboom says :

        Hehehhe I guess I was the only person in the world sold with the Lion King joke, that guy is still my favorite character. I haven’t seen any of the new season. I could see them going that route though.

        Also with The Office, I’m telling you once they brough on Jon Vitti it’s been really good again, the whole leaving of Michael Scott and James Spader coming on have been really good. Don’t know how long it’ll last though, but they were smart to put Jim and Pam more in the back ground and give some of the other characters more room.

      • Droid says :

        The first couple of episodes. I found it desperate and forced.

      • koutchboom says :

        Yeah I don’t see how maybe outside the faux documentary aspect that it’s forced, there is a natural chemistry between the cast.

      • Echo the Bunnyman says :

        You know, thats pretty much exactly how I felt too. I didnt think the talking head thing worked. I thought the gay couple was horribly contrived. Didnt like the constant episodic swiveling of the character stories, and felt Vergara was aiming far too broadly.

        But, now after seeing all of season 1, most of season 2 and three eps of 3, I was wrong. The main attraction is that the cast keeps growing the characters and it gets better week to week.

        I would understand why you wouldnt return to it, but I think if you gave season1 a spin for a bit, you might have different feelings on it.

        Maybe not, but it’s feasible, since it happened to me.

      • Droid says :

        I’ve long since forgotten any details about the show, so I’ll have to leave it at that I’m afraid. I can tell you that there was absolutely no laughs, no “chemistry” and I remember the gay guys on a plane scene that was so pathetically unfunny I gave up on it there and then.

  23. koutchboom says :

    I take the opposite approach to comedy right now on TV, I think it’s the best it’s been in a while if maybe ever. Right now we got (and yes I know we have varying opinions about them) Park and Rec/Community/The Office/Modern Family/Archer/Louie/The League/Family Guy/American Dad/Children’s Hospital/NTSF:SF:SUV/Eagle Heart/Cougar Town/Cleveland Show/The Looney Toons Show/Mad/Curb/Rules of Engagement/30 Rock, there are more I just can’t think of at the moment. That’s quite a bit of TV right there. Usually it’s just like 1-2 HUGE comedy shows. I think just at the moment comedy isn’t (well fuck if you consider 2 1/2 Men Comedy then yes a comedy show is the biggest show on tv at the moment) the hugest show on TV like say back with Seinfeld/Friends/Fraiser whatever. But in terms of overall choices in comedy I doubt it’s ever been better.

    • koutchboom says :

      Sunny in Philly which seems to be back on track, Workaholics which I doubt anyone here would really like but I enjoy. AND to a lesser extent Pretendtime with Nick Swardson which sort of blows, Simpsons…but thats sort of just become a TV constant at this point, and some other weird Cartoon network shows like Superjail and Black Dyamite if it gets picked up, also American Wilfred is good.

      • Kloipy says :

        I like superjail, not really for comedy but i like the animation, and it is absurdly surreal and violent, which make for an interesting combo. Adult swim is really hit or miss these days

      • koutchboom says :

        Yeah it’s more surreal then funny most of the time. But which is also funny in its own right.

      • koutchboom says :

        Man there is a show on CARTOON NETWORK…not adult swim some how. Its called like Awesome Mountain Adventure Squad are something nutty and one of the characters is a bunch of butts, I’m amazed it’s not on Adult swim with how fucking weird it is.

      • Kloipy says :

        the adult swim mentality has seemed to seep over into Cartoon Network, which I don’t mind. Like Adventure Time and Regular show and stuff that is actually funny. Being that I have a 3 year old I tend to mostly watch kids stuf these days, but one that is really funny and smart is Phineas and Ferb

      • koutchboom says :

        I wanted to Like Adventure Time…but couldn’t. Seriously check out this Secret Mountain Fort Awesome show it’s nuts. Also have you seen MAD or the Looney Toons Show on cartoon network?

        OHHH and if you like to show your children where IT ALL BEGAN this new age sort of style of comic cartoons, Cartoon Network has been rearing old 2 Stupid Dogs every day around 12ish, that was the show that started it all.

      • Kloipy says :

        I’m glad you brought up the abortion that is the new Looney Tunes show. I grew up with the old Looney Tunes and I still think they are some of the most subversive genius cartoons ever made, the new one is just god-awful

      • koutchboom says :

        hehehe right after I post that video. I love that new show, I think it’s funny as shit. It’s weird and not typical Loony Toons. It’s sort of like what I’d hope 2 and 1/2 Men could be. The Merry Melodies are awesome. The weird thing is that the Road Runner cgi stuff doesn’t work at all? Even though it’s the same stuff? I wonder if it’s the CGI or the mesh with the new style.

        You gotta admit even if you hate it…its better than the Action Show that stared the Loony Toons….but I also liked that but this show is awesome.

      • koutchboom says :

        It’s also funny because I think Daffy and Bugs have better chemistry then all the guys on The League, they try to hard to out funny each other, and while yes the awkwardness of that show feels more natural I think those guys are sort of funnier in other things I’ve seen them in.

    • Echo the Bunnyman says :

      Im with you on that. The amount of hits to misses is far better than its ever been, and its easy to skip the abysmal stuff, i.e. Two and A Half men etc.

      Also, comedies have finally discovered the rule about drama–creating some sense of continual narrative in a show creates investment beyond the jokes. Even some of the sillier stuff has learned this. Unlike the 90’s, where the characters never aged, never advanced, or even grew slightly wiser/less stupid over time.

      • Kloipy says :

        Modern Family is probably the funniest ‘network’ live show on right now. It doesn’t hurt that Sophia Vergara is in it

      • Kloipy says :

        Also Ty Burrell – who I really liked in the Dawn of the Dead remake- is hilarious in that show

      • koutchboom says :

        Well I think that’s the big thing something like 2 1/2 men miss where shows like Home Improvement and Rosanne nailed. It was shows like Seinfeld/Darmah and Greg/Frasier where people never changed that morph into the live studio shows we have today.

        Like that opening episode of 2 1/2 I watched it because I was curious…and instead of trying something interesting and dramatic and sort of sticking it to sheen for leaving. They kept with the boyish humor of the show and just took lame jabs at Sheen, who….some how after all this is coming out almost looking better than the creator for being so petty about it. ALSO they left it all open for Sheen to comeback somehow very easily. They could’ve made it more dramatic and more solid about his death, instead it was simple and you could sense that Sheen could come back….if the ratings slipped that is.

      • Echo the Bunnyman says :

        that whole cast works well together for MF. I will say this, and I hope it’s completely baseless:

        In the past 3 episodes (last week’s 2 and this week’s one) I’ve noticed an effort to make Phil more responsible, more of a leader in his family, still whimsical but respectable and you are rooting for him. He’s always been likable, but a bit of a putz.

        So, either a) the writers and Burr are being clever and showing Phil start to figure out the pitfalls of middle age and what his family, ever changing, really needs (which is the best-case scenario, as it shows an understanding of character subtlety)


        They are setting him up for a fall. I’m betting an illness of some sort–maybe cancer (the kidney stones from season one could be foreshadowing). Because TV always has to build up the clown, if they plan on him taking the fall in a ‘very special episode’. I’m just saying, MF has been very good about dealing with all the varied elements of being a family, and the one they haven’t touched on is dealing with loss/long-term illness, betrayal, etc. I think of how they retooled Michael Scott into a somewhat likable and admirable being before he left the show completely. Hope Im talking out of my ass on this one.

      • Xiphos0311 says :

        did somebody mention the Ty Burell from the most excellent Zach Snyder remake of ham fisted Hackmero’s POS original Dawn of The Dead? Man that movie is great and so was Burrell.


      • Jarv says :

        Snyder blows and has clearly been sucking on Satan’s black and veiny cock as if there was any justice he’d be giving hand-jobs to make his rent instead of being a “visionary director”.

        The more I think about it, the more I dislike his brainless and hackneyed version of DOTD.

      • koutchboom says :

        Heheh yeah it’s funny how everyone thinks he’s just some goof ball because that was odd for me to see him in MF at first because I was like…ohhh this guy always plays the Harry Ellis character.

      • Kloipy says :

        Modern FamilY: Jonah I hope they don’t do that with Phil. Don’t want to see that.
        Xi- though I do love Romero’s DOTD, I love the remake as much. I went to see it in the theater expecting a bunch of crap and ready to hate it. But from the moment you see that part in the beginning where she’s driving away and all the sudden this car comes out of nowhere and smashes into a gas station and it goes up (and this is all going on overhead) I was hooked. It was fun, had enough horror elements and cool stuff that I still love watching the remake

      • Xiphos0311 says :

        I got Jarv in one minute new personal best.

      • Droid says :

        Jarv actually has that comment permanently in his clipboard just in case the topic comes up.

      • Echo the Bunnyman says :

        Snyder’s Dawn of the Dead is a good movie. IMO, its best thing Snyder has done because it’s the least like that excessive style he set up with 300.

      • koutchboom says :

        It’s funny, Snyder reminds me most of Scott Sommers who everyone NOW thinks is some CGI speed freak, but if you paid attention you’d know he did the great Huck Finn update and Live Action Jungle Book. Now I know Huck had 0 cgi not 100% sure on Jungle Book. BUT NOW Scott is all about the CGI. GRANTED Scott is more about having a blast then looking cool like Synder, but it’s almost a similarish problem Synder has. They both should take a step back after whatever they are doing now and go back to their film making roots and make a CGI LESS movie just to prove to people that they aren’t all just about that.

      • Droid says :

        its best thing Snyder has done

        Faint praise.

      • Jarv says :

        The thing is, it IS the best thing the fucking sword swallower has done.

        That’s how shit everything else that he’s touched is. In a perverse way I want to see Sucker Punch, just to see how bad it is.

      • Jarv says :

        Oh, and although I haven’t seen it, SP must be nailed on Murph for this year’s Golden Changs. Hell, even if I haven’t seen it, I’ll say that because Snyder made it.

      • Toadkillerdog says :

        The Romero DOTD is awesome. Just a funny, gorey, glorious zombie flick.
        Romero can not direct for shit, but NOTLD and DOTD are classics that can never be surpassed in my mind, because of not only what they accomplished at the time – historic firsts – look up NOTLD, not only for the level violence and gore that had never been seen in American cinema at that time, but because they are entertaining as all get out. I can watch them on endless loop

      • Echo the Bunnyman says :

        I dont have any major beef with Stephen (not Scott) Sommers outside of Van Helsing. I’ve liked to some extent, everything else he’s done, including G.I. Joe. Yes, Mummy Returns wasnt particularly good, but more than anything else it felt like a rushjob. Van Helsing was no doubt a steaming pile, but he also doesn’t pretend he makes high-concept movies. He’s making breezy versions of Saturday morning cartoons.

        Which reminds me, I really want to see Sommers do Deep Rising 2: Monster Island.

    • Toadkillerdog says :

      I have seen Person of Interest. i watched the pilot and the second show. It is derivative as hell, but I do actually like cavaziel in it. He kicks major ass and is not afraid to gun bad guys down – although he shoots them in the leg to damn often which is retarded.

      Still, I will keep watching.

      I liked Alphas a great deal.

      The only animated show i watch regularly is Archer which is fantastic.

  24. Jarv says :

    My boss is such a tool. I’ve got to do some idiotic blog site for work, but she doesn’t understand what a blog is.

    Listen to this:

    1) She envisions the content on it being generated by external questions/ comments from the affected group of stakeholders. To this end, I’ve got to generate somewhere in the region of 200 username and passwords on Monday. I’m fine with this. What I’m not fine with is that she wants to use some kind of encryption- so these utterly unsolicited usernames and passwords will appear looking like this: $4ghp&!

    Now, I don’t know about you, but if I received something for log in id that I hadn’t asked for with a password like that, then I wouldn’t bother. What the fuck is wrong with copying WordPress and having “Name” and “Email address”.

    2) She doesn’t, fundamentally, understand how blogs work. What she wants is that the concerned parties will submit a question. The response to the question will then become the article in question. The internet doesn’t work like that. The article forms the basis for the comments. Not the other way round.

    3) She’s scared of the word moderation. Every comment submitted has to have a message that reads “Your comment/ question has been submitted for moderation” but without actually saying that.

    4) She wants EVERYONE in upper management to receive notification, despite the fact that it’s muggins here doing the moderation.

    5) She wants it moderated 24/7 (she can fuck off).

    6) She wants, and I can’t believe this one, categories in the comment/ questions.

    This is going to be an epic fuckup. The way I’d have done it, is to publish a variety of articles on the plans we’ve got then allow people to submit comments/ questions but just by completing name & email boxes. I then field them and put the replies up below. The whole thing is totally ass backward.

    I’m furious and she sprung this on me at 4pm and expects me to work the weekend.

    She can fuck herself.

    • Xiphos0311 says :

      I can beat your stupid boss story Jarv here’s how.

      About a month ago after haranguing management several times a day everyday to kick some funds loose to start up a mounted unit(we have funds for this and it was one of the reasons the big boss forced my boss to keep me around) I got my dinero and went shopping, which was a whole another story. First time out I get a half dozen head for our remuda, saddles, tack extra leather for repairs, feed etc..

      I get back to our place and start to bring in the string and my boss flips his lid and tells me I will have to stable the horses outside the perimeter, even though we have stables inside the wire. I have to spend an hour in the blazing sun trying to tell an idiot with a degrees from Princeton, in what I can only guess is retardation, that if I leave the horses outside the wire tonight by morning they will be gone because Afghans love to steal horses and have about 5000 years worth of experience doing so.

  25. koutchboom says :

    Anyone watching America’s show Blue Bloods? I love that show.

  26. koutchboom says :

    Seriously…this is a kids show….and he’s made of butts and yes farting sounds happen every time he moves…..and you call Family Guy low brow….

    • Toadkillerdog says :

      Kouth, do you watch Archer?

      • koutchboom says :

        Yeah I do…it’s ok it’s funny when I watch it then I forget it like a minute later. I wish it was on Cartoon Network and only 10-15 minutes long.

      • koutchboom says :

        I mean Adult Swim.

      • Kloipy says :

        best episode of Archer was when they were on the blimp. A better show than Archer, but made by the same people is Frisky Dingo. That show is WAY too underrated. it is hilarious, humor is the style of Archer but just a lot funnier

      • koutchboom says :

        Yeah I like Dingo, but I still like Sealab better and I think that was the same people.

      • Kloipy says :

        I think FD is consistently funnier than Sealab. I like Sealab and it had some great episodes, but I think as an all around show FD just latched onto something special

      • koutchboom says :

        Yeah FD was more unique than Sealab I’ll give it that. I probably have to watch that whole show in one sitting or closer together, because you really had to pay attention to get a lot of it. Sealab’s were one and done episodes.

  27. koutchboom says :

    I don’t think enough of you are getting the awesomeness of the New Loony Toons show:

  28. Kloipy says :

    speaking of Zombies. As much as I love the idea of zombies, i think the genre suffers from the greatest lack of actual good zombie movies.
    NOTLD DOTD + remake- good to great
    28 Days Later-Really good
    then the bad
    Children of the living dead-atrocious
    Land of the Dead-Diary-Survival- UGH
    Resident Evils -all crap
    Undead- terrible
    28 Weeks Later- Terrible
    pretty much all the others- Meh to Crap

    Feel like I’m missing a good one but probably not

    • koutchboom says :

      I’d say Dead Set was a good one.

    • Kloipy says :

      I really have a hard time believing when people say they loved 28 Weeks Later. Other than the opening scene that movie is total crap. And they made the mistake of doing yet another thumb to eyeball squishing like the first one.

      • koutchboom says :

        I enjoyed 28 Weeks Later, but I didn’t remember every bit about 28 Weeks. In terms of HORROR sequels it’s not that bad. The comic they did which takes place inbetween Days and Weeks though is really good.

      • Kloipy says :

        I agree with you Xi. I like the OG Crazies, but not as much as the remake. Romero gets too obsessed with his message and it taints the rest of his movies. Best of his with a message and handled well was NOTLD

      • D.Vader says :

        I hated 28 Weeks Later, and I was really, really looking forward to it too. I thought the director was pretty careless and had zero affection for the characters. That’s why we get another thumbs-to-the-eyeballs scene, and its given to the one person who absolutely did not deserve it.

        It works in the first movie because its the good guy giving it to the villain. It makes you want to cheer. In the sequel, they subjected a beautiful woman to that disgusting torture and why? Then the director kills off every other character carelessly, and brutally too, I might add. But instead of having the effect of dreading what’s next, feeling that anyone could be next, it just pissed me off instead. None of the deaths were tragic, just of the “that was fucking stupid” variety.

        And I hate the Saving Private Ryan stuttered image effect/zombie POV shot too.

    • Toadkillerdog says :

      Day of the Dead

      • Kloipy says :

        I guess I should also add that I only tend to enjoy zombie flicks that start off with no-one knowing what is going on. Even though it’s done over and over, I love the paranoia and the realization that something is off.

      • koutchboom says :

        Kloipy did you watch The Walking Dead? I love the comic hated the show.

      • Kloipy says :

        yeah, even though I don’t read comics I’d like to pick up Walking Dead. I think the show has potential to be good. The first few episodes were good, and the gore is fantastic, but it really lost steam towards the end. I’ll watch the second season, but it doesn’t live up to the hype it gets

      • koutchboom says :

        Yeah I agree with that on the Walking Dead.

        Another show I don’t think lives up to the hype is The Venture Brothers, that show is like the Community of cartoon shows. It’s WAY to referential and if you don’t get the reference you won’t get the joke or most of the episode…and also it suffers from too long of gaps between seasons. I can’t think of a Venture Brother’s episode off hand, but one Community Episode that got a lot of praise was the Dungeons and Dragons one….hated that episode. I don’t care for/never played D&D so most of that humor was lost on me, when when a show commits to reference that deeply….I respect it kind of but if you don’t know it you won’t get the jokes or appreciate them as much.

      • Toadkillerdog says :

        Land of the Dead

      • Kloipy says :

        TKD- I don’t hate Land of the Dead, it’s miles better than Diary or Survival, but it feels like Romero just threw the last 40 minutes of that movie out of thin air. I do like the stuff with the zombies in their old home, milling about and looking at the fireworks. But I would’t put it in the good zombie movie category

      • koutchboom says :

        Land suffers from coming out after the Dawn remake and being too similar in some aspects. If it had come out before it, it could’ve been seen as better.

        Heheeh I’m the only fuck that likes Diary, hated Survival that movie made very little sense.

      • Toadkillerdog says :

        I tried watching walking dead but it bored me after the third show, it dos have good gore but not enough to keep me interested. I will watch an ep or two this year to see if it improved.

        I agree with you koutch about venture bros. consistently un-funny to me with a very strange pedo vibe as well

      • koutchboom says :

        Heheh yeah it does feel very pedoy…also how all the references are to shows that were on in the 70s are earlier and it’s a cartoon show……who is the show for? Pedos.

      • Xiphos0311 says :

        The fireworks idea in Land of the Dead was probably the best thing Ham Fists thought of since NOTLD. The movie sucked rancid ass but that idea was good.

      • Kloipy says :

        per Venture Bros: I fall on the other side, I think that show is pure genius

      • Toadkillerdog says :

        Ha! Kloipy – ‘threw last 40 min out of air’ yes, that is exactly how romero directs!
        He is a turrible director and writer, and more than likely NOTLD was a collaborative effort and the best thing he has ever done – although I like creepshow and love DOTD.

        I will not defend any romero work other than NOTLD and DOTD and the fluffy segment in creepshow though.

        I just mentioned day and land though because they are not as horrid as some of his other stuff

      • Kloipy says :

        Romero has made a few good to decent movies
        NOTLD DOTD, Creepshow (probably my favorite of his but that’s mostly due to SK), Marten, Nightriders, The Dark Half, The Crazies, but that’s about all I can think of

      • Xiphos0311 says :

        The remake of The Crazies like the sainted remake of DOTD blows the doors of the original.

      • Continentalop says :

        You’re right about the Crazies remake Xi. You’re only half right about the DOTD remake.

        It blows.

      • Xiphos0311 says :

        Nope I am completely right Conti. the remake is excellent but that wasn’t hard to do since the original was god awful crap that doesn’t even rise to the level of embarrassingly incompetent drivel.

        For perspective try this out. I saw DOTD when it came out I was like 8 and I laughed me ass because it was so goofy and dumb and even me being a stupid kid I could tell it sucked and that was before I learned all about Romero’s dumb as fuck “social commentary”. Upon each subsequent viewing DOTD got worse and worse. But I will agree that DOTD is miles better then all the corn filled shit Romero smeared across the screen since the movie came out. However DOtD doesn’t even come close to wiping the sweat off of NOTLD zombie taint. NOTLD is a GOOD movie the only one in Ham Fists awful career.

        All that being said I will still end up watching the next cinematic zombie abortion Romero barfs up on the screen. I”m retarded like that anI will loathe myself for doing it.

        One further piece of perspective a year after I saw DOTD I saw a haunted house movie set in space called Alien that caused me to piss my pants for a week and sleep with a bat in case a chest burster attacked. So horror movies did work on me.

      • Continentalop says :

        I doubt I can convince you that the new DOTD is inferior to the original, Xi, but I think I can explain why I prefer the original.

        Romero’s IMO did something that Star Wars, the Road Warrior, The Warriors and EFNY all did: create a universe bigger than the movie they made. I could imagine countless stories taking place in Romero’s Deadworld, not only involving the characters in Pennsylvania but also anywhere in America and the rest of the world. And obviously so could many other people, since it inspired so many different riffs and pastiches of that story – Shaun of the Dead, the Walking Dead, World War Z, etc.

        Snyder didn’t do that for me. Despite the bigger budget and better technical aspects, it felt smaller, much smaller. I couldn’t imagine anything taking place outside of the frame of the scenes like I could Romero’s. That alone makes me love the original over the remake.

        The remake did have a great opening sequence and end credits (I thought the end credit bit where they land on the island creepier and scarier than anything in the rest of the movie).

      • Jarv says :

        Two words why the piss poor DOTD remake blows hairy goat sack:



        Honestly, It’s unforgivably shit. The social commentary is even crasser and more stupid than the original. (The shooting zombies that look like famous people).

        It’s an idiotic, fatuous mess.

      • Xiphos0311 says :

        zombie baby was great especially since they wasted zombie baby. Pussed out not showing it but hey they greased him.

      • Jarv says :

        Zombie baby= automatic fail.

      • Xiphos0311 says :

        Why does zombie baby =”automatic fail”

      • D.Vader says :

        Conti, on the DotD remake, you said:

        “The remake did have a great opening sequence and end credits (I thought the end credit bit where they land on the island creepier and scarier than anything in the rest of the movie).”

        You think that’s because the ending was shot in the found footage style? 1st person POV through a video camera? I’m guessing so. It wouldn’t have been nearly as effective (or efficiently shot) if they did the standard for that scene.

      • D.Vader says :

        Yeah, why is the zombie baby an automatic fail? I had a zombie baby in my zombie short.

  29. Kloipy says :

    back to Modern Family for Droid’s sake. It took a few episodes to really hit the ground, but the second half of season 1 and ALL of season 2 are really hilarious and touching. I actually don’t mind the doc aspect of the show. The use it so little and it feels organic to the set-up of the show now. Even the kids aren’t annoying in it

  30. Droid says :

    Alright guys. I’m probably not going to be around this weekend cause I’m pretty busy and I go on holiday on monday, so have a good couple of weeks and I’ll see you when I get back. Which will be two fewer weeks I’ll have to wait to see TINTIN, bitches!

    Have a good one.


  31. Continentalop says :

    Echo, you asshole. Just read your 50/50 review. Now I HAVE to go see that this weekend.

    • just pillow talk says :

      Heh…I just read a few reviews on it and they are all raving about it. JGL’s first outstanding performance according to the reviews, and genuinely a funny movie.

      If that is the case, the trailers don’t do it justice on tv because it looks rather blah after watching the trailers on tv.

  32. Col. Tigh-Fighter says :

    Ah zombies! Now you’re talking something I know a lot about lol

    Night 4.5
    Dawn 5
    Day 3.5
    Land 3.5
    Diary 1
    Survival 0 – you fucking cunt

    Sorry Xi. but I love the Dawn remake. The opening is so fucking powerful that the film has me for the rest of it. There’s loads of cool beats in it that I can forgive it when it goes generic. The underground carpark, shooting Burt reynolds and Rosie O’Donald, chess by telescope. All great stuff

    • Col. Tigh-Fighter says :

      I saw a “video nasty” of Dawn when I was about 8-9 and it gave me nightmare like nothing ever did before or since. The uncut version with the full bite out of the arm. I guess why it has a special place for me. Screw social commentary, it was relentless, bitey death that fucked my young brain up. Hence me lovey some zombies.

      And I love the RE films. Its pepperoni pizza with extra chille sauce. Not good for me, but damn tasty 🙂

      Dead Set is fucking brilliant, and one of the best zombie films I’ve seen. Top three for me. Totally gets the genre.

    • Xiphos0311 says :

      Dude I LIKE the Snyder’s remake I can’t stand the original. The remake is an actual GOOD movie. I agree all those parts were great along with the attempt to get to the yacht. That was a well made chase sequence.

      Have you ever read this review of Snyder’s masterpiece? It sums it up perfectly for me.


  33. just pillow talk says :

    Xi, you all pysched for tomorrow’s game? I’m assuming Ian is throwing the first game? The Brew Crew would not surprise me if they made it to the series instead of the Phillies, regardless of that pitching. The Philly offense has been struggling way too much and I could see them losing 2-1 games.

    Rays beating the shit out of the Rangers…good for them.

    As long as the Yankees lose, it’s all good. Come on Verlander, shut those fuckers down!

    • Xiphos0311 says :

      I was hoping the Dbacks would overtake the Brew Crew and get home field since the Crew is a scrappy team like the Dbacks. I sort of wish they were playing the Phills since like you said they are running on fumes.

      Amen to the Yanks losing which could happen.

  34. Xiphos0311 says :

    Quick Question the show The Big Bang Bang Theory is allegedly a comedy right?

  35. just pillow talk says :

    Jarv, Blast from the Past review emailed….

  36. Jarv says :

    Never mind shit like the Big Bang Theory (which Mrs. Jarv inexplicably likes).

    ENGLAND v SCOTLAND in 2 hours.

    Got the fear badly about it. England should be fine, but….


    I get to watch a Pacific Island side stomp the French first.

    (PS. The Haka is ridiculous)

    • Jarv says :

      Through an appalling error of judgement, I have only got 2 beers.

      I need to go and buy breakfast as well. Shitbags. I wonder if I can wake Mrs. Jarv up and force her to go.

      • just pillow talk says :

        That is horrible on your part…that is one thing that should NEVER happen.

        Prediction: Mrs. Jarv smacks you.

    • D.Vader says :

      I always thought the Haka was pretty awesome.

      Starting the World Cup now.

  37. tombando says :

    DBacks vs. Tigers would be a good series, Brewers vs. Rays might be fun too.

    I have recovered from Sawks bombing as they didn’t deserve to be in the post-season, sorry to see Terry Francona go but it was time.

    I like Big Bang Theory, it’s funny, the blonde is cute and it’s harmless. It’s also not far removed from Balky or Urkel terrain, that too I fully realize.

    Needs Giant Robots.

    • just pillow talk says :

      As long as the Yanks don’t make it, it’s all good. And if the Phillies don’t win it, so much the better. I think the Brew Crew vs. the Rays would be good.

    • Xiphos0311 says :

      The only draw back to a Dbacks v Tigers World Series is that the talking heads on TV would blather on non-stop about Kirk Gibson and Alan Trammell being such a big part of Tigers history and now they are now coaches in Arizona.

      • just pillow talk says :

        I don’t think the D-backs will be in the series, so no worries about that discussion occuring… 🙂

      • Xiphos0311 says :

        they’re a resilient bunch I wouldn’t count them out just yet.

      • Xiphos0311 says :

        And now I see they are more then likely done. They might win one at home and push it to a four game series but that’s it. Oh well considering they were picked to be in last place at the end of the regular season getting into the play offs isn’t too shabby. It’s good experience for next season.

      • Just Pillow Talk says :

        Yeah, no matter how short the series turns out to be, it doesn’t take away from them being far and away the biggest surprise.

      • Xiphos0311 says :

        I think the Dbacks are still one pitcher short and a constant hitter would be nice. They address those two issues and they could compete for years.

  38. Continentalop says :

    Welcome to the Big Ten Cornhuskers. Ha!

    (says the man from the University of Minnesota, who can’t even beat a Div. II team).

  39. Col. Tigh-Fighter says :

    How nice to have finished work for a while. I finally watched loads of stuff yesterday, and all of it was varying degrees of good.

    Jarv, Stakeland might be the best film I have seen this year. Certainly the best non popcorn flick anyway. Dark, brutal, and utterly engaging. It reminded me a bit of The Road, but not a depressing, and with some nice deaths. The opening of the film was genuinely horrifying and set the scene for the rest of the film. Well bloody done! 4/4 Changs

    Vanishing on 7th Street was a strange, but memorable little film. A cool premise of everyone on Earth disapearing while a few people get left behind. Loads of empty clothes on the street, and strange lingering shadows. The premise doesn’t actually bare much close scrutiny as it makes no sense. In fact, I bet the writers don’t really know what their big bad is, but it was damn effective. There was a strong vibe of This Island Earth, or even The Langolliers with those left behind trying to figure out whats going on. 2.5/4 Changs

    and finally Shaolin. This was what I hoped 13 Assassins would be. Beautifully shot, and with an emotional core all the way through it. A great film! Andy Lau was fantastic in it. I’ve seen him in a few things, but this is his film front and centre. Excellent! 3.5/4 Changs.

    Fringe season opener was very good too. And Community season 3 is just as bloody good as the others.

    And I did give Terra Nova a go. Hmmmm. Better than I thought actually, but only just. Everytime the family, or even worse the teenagers came on I wanted to punch the TV, but there are some fascinating ideas in there. Stephen Lang is fun as a good version of Quarrich from Avatar. The Bladerunnner type future should have been explored more before coming to the past. The timetravel plot holes are glaring, but the Lost type consipracy, and strange writings on the rocks hint at some interesting tales out there. Just drop the fucking teenagers! Keep to the actual interesting story points. Oh, and if a teenager runs into a few raptor type dinos on her own in the wood after she ran away, she DOESN’T GET TO FUCKING SURVIVE WITH ONLY SCRATCHES! I mean, Jesus! Not a fucking chunk out of any off them! Oh, and bullets dont seem to work. I guess dinos are bullet proof! Arghhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!! But it looks good, so I will give it a few more eipisodes to see if it picks up. But no amount of cool sets and dinosaurs will make up for some serious lame points. Have some balls and have a BSG go at it. But I fear the worse. 1.5/4

    And today I shall be having a play at the new Dead Island game, which came free when I renewed my subscription for Empire mag. The original trailer was so good I’ve got to give it a whirl.

    • Xiphos0311 says :

      Is Rupert Murdoch fugly niece that can’t act still on Fringe? HA who am I kidding of course she is, it’s the only reason Fringe didn’t get shit canned the first season.

      • Echo the Bunnyman says :

        there are now two Olivias, Xi. Both played by Torvhead.

      • Xiphos0311 says :

        How can they fit two giant domes onto the screen at the same time?

      • Col. Tigh-Fighter says :

        How funny. I had no idea she was a bit Murdoch-ish. But she seems keen to play down the family relationship lol

        She does have a large forhead, and poor acting chops. Comes from the same school of acting as Richard Dean Anderson. One look fits all 🙂

        Weak second episode. Shame as the first was very good. I only watch it because there’s nothing else I really like on at the moment. There’s a good show in there somewhere

      • Xiphos0311 says :

        At least Richard Dean Anderson can build a 747 from a pop bottle lid, twine and a paper clip. I would like to see that plank of wood with a five head do that.

  40. Xiphos0311 says :

    Quite day around the old homestead and I’m stuck inside today with zero supervision and my work done hours ago.

  41. Xiphos0311 says :

    watched an awful movie over eh last couple of days called Date Night with Scar face from SNL, Michael Scott and Marky Mark. It’s the first legitimately awful movie I’ve seen in a long time. Most movies are just bland and not worth talking about but that steaming pile of camel shit was awful.

    • tombando says :

      My condolences. Xmen first Class put my missus to sleep and pretty much irritated the heck outta me.

      • Xiphos0311 says :

        not good Tom? It needed the Sentinels which are giant purple Mutant hunting robots. Several studies have shown that Giant Purple robots are the worst sort of Giant Robot..

      • TomBodet Robots are good for what Ails ya. says :

        Sentinels were SEVERELY NEEDED. Absolutely.

      • D.Vader says :

        I watched First Class for the first time last week and I was very disappointed. I thought the performances were fine, and the relationship between Charles, Erik, and Mystique was great.

        But the pacing felt off. There was just something about it that wasn’t engaging enough for me. That could be a result of the rush job the studio forced the production to adhere to.

        Also, I thought Beast was fucking TERRIBLE once he transformed. Before when he was just Hank, he was fine. But as the Beast? AWFUL makeup. AWFUL character. Constantly snarling and being angry. He even started speaking like a typical douchebag instead of the eloquent scientist/philosopher he usually is.

    • Just Pillow Talk says :

      I liked Date Night. If you think that is a pile of camel shit, then you surely would go insane with the stuff I’ve seen lately.

      • Xiphos0311 says :

        I didn’t laugh once I chuckled maybe three times and was insulted and bored the rest of the time I think the major issue I have is that I’m not the target demo. I’m not married. I don’t have kids and I don’t live in the suburbs, plus I wanted to garrote every single cliche and stereotype on screen.

      • Just Pillow Talk says :

        “garrote every single cliche and stereotype”

        Welcome to the “rom-com” genre.

      • Xiphos0311 says :

        I don’t automatically hate rom-coms, there are several decent to very good ones out there, this one however, was to me, the Mordor of rom coms.

      • Echo the Bunnyman says :

        ‘the Mordor of rom-coms’. That would be Valentine’s Day.

        I liked Date Night too, but it was more a ratio thing. I chuckled several times, wasnt ever out-right bothered by anything and laughed out-loud at that bit involving the taxi collision. Dumb, yes? Probably doesn’t hold up? Most likely. But it amused me in the moment.

    • Col. Tigh-Fighter says :

      I thought Date Night was at best Meh. I thought Marky Mark was probably the funniest thing in it. Plus quite licked the True Lies rippoff of the pole dance scene. But that was about it.

      Shame, as they are two likable leads. I do like 30 Rock (mostly)

      • koutchboom says :

        Count me in as a Date Night fan, much better then I thought it would be. Fay and Steve had good chemistry and Fincher does the best Walken since probably Welcome to the Jungle or Kangaroo Jack.

  42. Echo the Bunnyman says :

    Xi, Supernatural thoughts? Strange, how many similairites there were at the end of the ep to the very start of season 1.

    • Xiphos0311 says :

      How so? I missed what they were.

      So far so good in my opinion. I’m liking psycotic Sam and his talks with the satan and I think they are really going to screw with Dean he seems like he is on the verge of breaking down entirely.

      • Echo the Bunnyman says :


        Well, for one, there’s a concrete villain again: The Leviathan. I’m betting the general of the bunch is Cas’ human host Jimmy. Also, no way Cas is gone for good, even if Collins himself doesn’t resurface.

        A homestead burned to the ground, and another father figure gone missing, with a desperate Dean leaving phone messages.

        And the final scene is much like the end of season 1, season 2…with Dean and Sam headed to the hospital with unfriendly company waiting.

        Just saying, it seemed like attempts to bring back a more familiar Supernatural feel. I appreciated it, personally. Looking forward to next week, as Ackles last directed episode was the best of that season.

      • Xiphos0311 says :

        Damn I missed all of those connections.

      • Echo the Bunnyman says :

        either way, I think it’s gonna be a good season. And Pellegrino is having way more fun on SN than he ever seemed to on Lost. Im sort of hoping that this projection is something Sam must hone and teach to help him.

        As cheesy as it sounds, I dont think I mind Luci being this reoccuring douchebag sidekick.

      • koutchboom says :

        Hehehe I saw a promo for Hawaii Five 0 and I was like….is Lost going into syndication?

      • Echo the Bunnyman says :

        Hawaii Five O is like island of misfit genre actors. Most of Lost, Spike from Buffy, Mark Dacascos from Brotherhood of the Wolf, and the list goes on.

        Strangely, all of that still didnt help me get through a whole episode.

  43. koutchboom says :

    Col, thanks for the heads up on Shaolin, I need to check that out and 13 Asses.

  44. koutchboom says :

    Echo you seen MARTHA MARCY MAY MARLENE? I’m interested in that, though it sort of looks like this years Winter’s Bone.

    • Echo the Bunnyman says :

      ‘this year’s winter’s bone’—indeed it does, and that has me cautious. Winter’s Bone is a fine movie when it;s just an indie screener you catch with no buzz. But it was terribly overrated after that. Good lord.

      I havent seen M4 yet, but will let you know when I do. Im seeing The Dead tonight, that South African zombie film.

      good call on Changian tv shows. I’d also nominate Fringe.

      Finally saw an episode of Psych. The Dual Spires (Twin Peaks) episode. weird.

  45. koutchboom says :

    Also for the Golden Changs this year, even though the winner is probably decided, we should have a Golden Chang for Best Changian TV Show. I’d say the Nominees end up being Super Natural, Parks & Rec and White Collar fer sure and Id also nominate Alphas and Warehouse 13.

    • Echo the Bunnyman says :

      Alphas, Supernatural and Parks and Rec emerge as the main competition I think.

    • Echo the Bunnyman says :

      also, maybe not so wrapped up for SN, since this last year wasn’t exactly it’s strongest, and Parks and Rec really came into its own this year, as well as Alphas showing up out of nowhere.

      • koutchboom says :

        Yeah when I typed Parks and Rec I realized that could win. I don’t know if Alphas made it across the pond yet.

    • Echo the Bunnyman says :

      rewatched Drive this weekend. Still holds up, but see your points. I think it’s been misinterpreted by the critics.

      Second time I watched it on screener with my wife and her parents and it dawned on me, this is ‘House of the Devil’ for action movies. Those psuedo-serious rock songs, the hot pink cursive font, the quietness of that initial getaway scene. Not just an homage, but sort of a commentary too. I’d say solidly good, not quite very good, as I had said last week.

      • koutchboom says :

        How do you feel about my opening scene comparison to the first transporter opening scene?

      • Echo the Bunnyman says :

        I can see that I guess, but I have a confession . I saw transporter once bakc in 2002 or whenever it came out. I dont have too many strong memories of it. The set-up is there, but I dotn recall it feeling so odd, dreamy. People say fairytale abut Drive, but I think that’s just the default. Feels more like a dream. As you pointed out, though I dont see it as a criticism, characters murder one another right in broad daylight, in public places and without discretion and excepty for that first scene, I dont remember any police cars.

        To my mind, that scene in particular is much similar to a grimy 70’s crime thriller.

        I think the critical consensus that its iportant is wrong, but I maintain that its a fun, albeit weird movie. I do stand by the Transformers comment. Both movies have one-note dimensional characters. Drive, in my mind, makes them work, and Transformers just uses them to stage those big set pieces.

        I have no real beef with either film, but for me Drive stuck with me more. Transformers was visually impressive in the moment.

      • koutchboom says :

        Just pop in Transporter 1 and watch the first 20 minutes. I’ve been meaning to as well to refresh my memory of it. I’m just saying they both open with a similar style getaway, just Trans is during the day and more action packed. Drive does that interior shot stuff which people have been praising, but it’s funny you read stuff from the director and he acts like they HAD to do that because they only had two days to shoot that scene, like he wanted more. But that opening scene is very GTA feeling. But not only the chase is similar to Trans 1, also he RULES aspect of it, just you see Frank stick to his rules and they are stated because they matter, the rules in Drive don’t matter.

        I only say it turns to a fairy tale after the kiss scene, and that’s also what the director stated. To me though that’s the films biggest issue, is it’s tone it’s all over the place trying to be a bunch of things and never really succeeding at any of them. Also to me Bronson was a much more memorable character and that film’s tone was more consistent all the way through.

      • Echo the Bunnyman says :

        Bronson was a more compelling character, but the movie he was in, I felt, was far more tonally inconsistent. Like the director didnt know what to make of him, so just resorted to varying scenes of him getting his ass handed to him after rebelling. For me, Drive was more unified than that movie or Valhalla Rising.

        The rules arent meaningless in either movie, but they serve different functions.

      • koutchboom says :

        The rules were a worthless toy in Drive merely to serve as some cool point, if they took them out it doesn’t change anything about the movie.

      • koutchboom says :

        With Bronson, the tone is better because it’s a farce all the way through, it’s mostly comical it doesn’t change at all. And the Bronson character is well defined as just a lunatic. Drive’s character just changes to whatever Wingding seems to be cool to fit the scene he wants to film. Drive wants to be 50 different things. I still need to see Valhalla and his Pusher Trilogy, and his first try at going hollywood where he failed with Transformers Star John Turturro sounds pretty cool.

        I don’ t hate the director after Drive, but I bet it’s probably his worst film….well maybe after Valhalla Rising, haven’t heard many good things about that….but IDK I doubt he’ll ever top Bronson, but I wonder if the Pusher films are his best movies. Maybe he’ll direct Transformers 4.

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