Burt Gummer’s Rec Room- December 2010 Archive

A gathering place for firearms enthusiasts, paranoid survivalists and those who worship at the Church of Chang.

It’s the Festive season. Chestnuts on the fire, turkey in the oven, a massive amount of booze and plenty of guns and live ammunition.

Ho Ho Fucking Ho.

Disclaimer: This is the part of the Church that is the most no holds barred. None of it is intended with malice, and although it can on occasion seem a little bit fraught, it is banter rather than venom.

2,601 responses to “Burt Gummer’s Rec Room- December 2010 Archive”

  1. Jarv says :

    The Road is pompous wank. Night of the Comet is awesome!

  2. ThereWolf says :

    Can’t believe I’m back in work tomorrow. Shat that.

  3. ThereWolf says :

    Watched ‘Gamer’.

    I know I’ve had a drink but I haven’t got a clue what that was about. What the fuck was going on? I’m in a game, you’ve got to turn me loose so I can put a stop to all of this. Hah-haaa! You can’t stop me I control you! Hah-haaa back at ya, coz for some unknown fuckin reason I control you now. Yer dead. The end.

    Fuck off.

  4. Jarv says :

    Not great then?

    Watch Night of the Comet. That’ll fix it.

    Also- I’m not back in work for ages

  5. Droid says :

    Spent half the day watching the extras on the Alien blurays. Now watching Alien. Awesome.

    • ThereWolf says :

      I’ve watched the Alien 3 making-of. Haven’t got around to the films yet. I’ve an idea to do a blu double bill of Alien & The Thing one night.

      • Droid says :

        I watched the extras for 3 and Resurrection. Really interesting especially the different approach to the films from Fincher and Jeunet. Fincher was fucked from the get go and fought the studio on everything and they kept fucking him over. Amazing it turned out as good as it did. Jeunet essentially accepted whatever Fox wanted and in turn they let him do some of the stuff he wanted.

      • ThereWolf says :

        I won’t bother with Resurrection again.

        I find 3 fascinating – I much prefer the making-of to the film, which looks and sounds good but is otherwise a staggering mess.

        As you say, I will grant Fincher that much – it IS amazing that he managed to get something approximating a movie on screen.

  6. Jarv says :

    Never seen it before. I was surprised at how badass she was

    • Xiphos0311 says :

      Sorry I meant to fix something and erased the original post.

      Night of The Comet! man I thought I was the only person that remembered that little gem and liked it. The movie rocks and Cathrine Mary Steward was a hot piece of ass. I wonder why she disappeared she had a bit of talent to back up the looks.

      Quick perusal of IMDB reveals she has been entombed in the hell that is Canadien TV. She still looks good.

    • Xiphos0311 says :

      Yep both her and the chick that played the sister were believable. For a movie made on a shoe string budget, saddled with bad 80’s synth music that was more or less ripping off Day of the Dead it had good tension in it and well staged fight scenes and good comet zombie make up.

  7. Jarv says :

    Fucking hate this feed. Indian TV blows

  8. Jarv says :

    Fuck this is annoying. Get one of these cunts out.

  9. Jarv says :

    Thank the lord. Only one left

  10. Continentalop says :

    I didn’t like Night of the Comet when I first saw it but it grew on me.

    Wasn’t Geoffrey Lewis in that?

    • Jarv says :

      Not sure. I was laughing at the dork trek cunt.

      Anyway Off to bed.

      England won

    • Xiphos0311 says :

      yep he played the lead scientists.

      • Tom_Bando says :

        There was a time in the 80’s where I remember seeing Geoffrey Lewis’ face all over TV-the A-Team, The Dukes of Hazzard (I think?), the Smothers Brothers reunion show, etc. He was funny when he needed to be, and made for a good effective hick baddie too.

        Haven’t thought of him in a bit, thanks for the name check.

        Bo Hopkins time!

      • Continentalop says :

        Yeah Tom, I always like Lewis, especially his work in Clint movies like Any Which Way But Loose or High Plains Drifter. And he was real good in Dillinger.

    • Tom_Bando says :

      This is true–I have that there ’73 Warren Oates flick! He was in that!

  11. koutchboom says :

    Here you go Conti,

    TV & Cinema: The 160 Most Appalling Cases Of Nepotism:


    • Continentalop says :

      While I agree with many of the people on the list, the guy looses all credibility when he says Daniel Day Lewis and John Huston are overrated.

      Yeah, Maltese Falcon, Treasure of Sierra Madre & Asphalt Jungle are overrated. Fucking idiot.

      Just because someone benifited from nepotism doesn’t mean they aren’t talented. It just means they got an unfair advantage at getting opportunities (which is usually why they are better than other people: it’s no surprise that the coach’s kid gets better if he automatically makes the team and gets way more playing time than anyone else).

      • koutchboom says :

        Yeah I know the dude was a little over the top about some people. Just thought it was funny/odd some of the people I never knew. What was something they didn’t really point out, probably I’d say like 75% if not more of that list was more successful then their parents. Or bigger whatever. I’d like to see something like that comparing their career to their parents.

        ALSO when did Clint Howard really get some unfair advantage for being who he is? If so I feel really bad for the guy who lost out a role to Clint Howard.

  12. koutchboom says :

    Is class of 1984 worth hunting down?

    • Echo the Bunnyman says :

      yea, it’s pretty good koutch. it’s dated yes, but it’s a fine movie. I think you will like it.

      See Black Swan yet?

      • koutchboom says :

        Naw haven’t gotten around to seeing Swan yet. Can’t really be assed now. Probably wait for rental. More interested in seeing Tron in 2D, mainly to compare but also because I want to see it again. Also got Love Ranch lined up. Meant to do double feature with JFK and Love Ranch, but JFK ran about 3 hours too long. Plus my wife had no interest in either, so I had to find solo time to watch them. Though once I told her what JFK was about she was like…well why didn’t you tell me that? I was like??? I fucking told you it was about the conspiracy behind the JFK murder? Like she somehow expected me to know all the juicy details from the movie before I saw it. So I was like, well I’ll watch it again it was that good, and then she decided that it was still too long. Also the netflix was fucked up and I had to keep going to my computer to watch portions of it because the DVD player wouldn’t play it. But for a 3 1/2 movie going back and forth like that wasn’t that bad, but I think the third time I had to do I just finished it out on the computer. Also that whole final trial is one of those you can’t look away scenes of a film and its about 40 minutes.

      • koutchboom says :

        Ohh as for 1984 I was just looking into MJ Fox’s career and saw that he was in it, never knew that.

  13. lordbronco says :

    Ha Ha quote from good article-Makes me think of Gingertown-ha ha:

    “6. Get a good review from Roger Ebert.

    There are seven ‘Roger Eberts’ that can be found in the phone book in the Los Angeles area alone and one of them is bound to love your movie. Seriously, there are more outlets covering film today than films released in a year. No joke. If you can’t get a decent review in a recognizable media outlet, there are plenty of unknown media outlets on the web just salivating over the prospect of being quoted on your movie poster. Just ask the major movie studios who use this technique all the time.”

    Planty McPlant syndrome explained! haw haw

  14. koutchboom says :

    Soooooooo I saw Eat, Prey, Shit last night. And lets just say that yeah…..if you see that movie it really is going to change your life. So that you never watch shit like that again.

    I figured the movie was going to be schmultzy and I knew that I had an outside chance of finding it at least somewhat enjoyable, more so then most people round these parts. But fuck me if even I couldn’t find any redeaming qualities in it the rest of you are fucked the day your life partners want to sit down and watch a terrible travelog of the rest of the world.

    While I’ve never been to India or Bali, the parts of the movie that take place there are kept pretty limited to only a few key areas and probably do semi justice to what life is like in those parts. But fuck me the part in Italy is where she does the most traveling and it looks like it was made by a person whose never been to italy and just made up shit about it.

    The only thing I can say about the film, is if I was offered the gig to work on that movie I would’ve jumped at it, just because it was probably 100% more fun to make then to watch. Getting to travel round the world to work on what was probably a fairly easy film to make. It wasn’t like you got to go to New Zealand then you had to bust your ass to make shit like LOTR or something. You just had to put up with Julia yammering on about fucking nothing.

  15. koutchboom says :

    Also watched Easy A last night. It was ok. Barely remember it now. Its like Mean Girls and Saved had a more annoying talkative little sister. Also what the fuck was up with potato face in that?

  16. just pillow talk says :

    And I finally saw that How to Train a Dragon movie. My mom had gotten it for my daughter for Christmas, and it was a pretty entertaining movie. By far Gerard’s best acting…

    The animation was top-notch, and I was actually surprised they had the kid lose his foot.

  17. Droid says :

    Watching Species. We HAVE to do this movie for Drunken Cinema. It’s goddamn hilarious. The Whittaker character is fucking ridiculous. And Henstridge. Good lord, Henstridge!

    Seriously considering a Species-a-thon tonight.

    • Droid says :


      Whittakers sitting in her car after she’s abandoned it when it ran out of gas, and his supernatural empath abilities tell him “She walked! She walked that way!”

    • koutchboom says :

      You’ll be Natasha Henstridge tonight.

      • Droid says :


        Well Species is hilarious. Now it’s time for Species II and drunk Madsen!

      • koutchboom says :

      • Droid says :

        Oh yeah, thanks for clearing that up koutch.

        Anyhoo, fucking hell Species II sucks. Just a terrible fucking movie. Saved only by a drunk Madsen delivering some hilarious dialogue…

        “Listen pal, the last time I fought with that alien she-bitch I almost got myself killed.”

        “They could fuck the human race into extinction!”

        “Welcome to the maternity ward from hell.”

        He saves it from getting a very nasty rating.

  18. Frank Marmoset says :

    Hello, folks.

    This is just a quick drive-by purge. Special lady friend keeps telling me “It’s just a film!” and to let it go, but I am rarely this annoyed and have to get this out of my system, so I’m unloading it on you nice people. Think of it as a late Christmas present from me to you. A Christmas present made of HATE.

    Anyway, we just watched The Lovely Bones. Started okay, then kind meandered about not really doing much except showing off boring fancy special effects, then became so irritating at the end I have not been able to shut up about it.


    So I was thinking this poor dead girl would help her family cope with their grief, or maybe help the police solve the horrible crime that had taken place, or possibly even find some ghostly way to kill the asshole who killed her; but it turns out in the end that ALL SHE WANTS TO FUCKING DO IS KISS A GOD DAMN FUCKING BOY!!!

    Jesus Horatio Christ, I have never been so angry at a fictional teenager. It’s like Juno all over again, except Juno is dead this time.

    And to make matters worse, so the audience can have some sense of ‘justice’ at the end of this garbage, Stanley Tucci TURNS INTO A FUCKING CARTOON CHARACTER AND FALLS OFF A GOD DAMN FUCKING CLIFF!!! That’s it! That’s the fucking ending!



    So, yeah, I didn’t really like this film The Lovely Bones. It annoyed me more than any other film I’ve seen this year. God damn you, Peter Jackson and whatever hack wrote the book this film was based on; unless the book ends with Marky Mark beating Stanley Tucci to death with a baseball bat, in which case I withdraw my damning of the author.

    I hope you are all enjoying the Christmas season and whatnot. See you all next week.

    Yours rantingly,


    • Droid says :

      Book ends the same way. Bad guy gets the icicle of doom. The book fucking sucks and the movie is worse. Now THATS an orang candidate.

      I’m watching Species III and its boring the living shit out of me. I don’t give a fuck about T-Bag. Give me awesome space boobs, damn you!

      Have a good new years mate.

    • koutchboom says :

      There is only one way to rectify having watch The Lovely Bones…..

      Make Chang proud this New Year Frank.

  19. Droid says :

    Christ. Species III was total crap. And even worse, fucking boring.

    And of course I’m ploughing ahead with Species 4. Ben Cross is in this shit?

  20. Droid says :

    Fucking hell. Fast forwarded through a whole bunch of that shit. The first Species is officially the only entertaining one. Madsen tries to make 2 entertaining but overall it’s shit. 3 and 4 are fucking awful.

  21. lordbronco says :

    Also just popping in-No big rants-spent all day and night reading.

    But-this just in…Val Kilmer owes IRS 500,000 dollars.

    no Val Kilmer-they will put you in cell next to Wesley Snipes!

    And Val is overweight-so probably can’t even get a sell-out role in a kids movie to fix this issue.

    Maybe he can be cell mates with Randy Quaid

  22. ThereWolf says :

    Last night, watched REC & REC2…

    First look at the sequel; good stuff. Cannot for the life of me understand why they intercut a few credits with the action at the beginning. It just upsets the flow. Better not go into the plot in case there are folk here who have yet to see it…

    Tonight I watched Avatar – the extended by 8 minutes version. The extra stuff was nice to see but pretty much unnecessary. Top film – I thought I might’ve changed me tune a bit by now but I like it just as much as I did at the cinema.

    Think I placed it too high on my ‘decade’ list though…

    • Droid says :

      The RECs are really good back to back because it’s all essentially one movie anyway.

      Unless you had Avatar at number one you placed it too LOW!!! hehe

  23. Continentalop says :

    Well Happy New Year, Moonwolves. We seem to have survived another year. Hope each of you have a good time tonight.

  24. Continentalop says :

    Also Xi, if you stop by, heads up: UFC is holding a card on the 1st. The only reason I bring it up is because retired US Marine Captain Brian Stann is fighting against Chris Lieben. So if you want to do something besides bowl games, you got that.

  25. MORBIUS says :

    * Feliz Año Nuevo * TO ALL YOU MOONWOLVES…

    You know who you are.


  26. Jarv says :

    Well, It’s victory to me and I have finally defeated the Iphone.

    Turns out, it was defective.

    Anyhoo, I’ll pop back in after midnight and will post the first new review of the year tomorrow, along with an Ashes thing.

    First review: Street Fighter- The legend of chun li.

  27. Spud McSpud says :

    Happy New Year for tonight, fellow Moonwolves!! Soon 2011 shall be OURS – ALL OURS!!!

  28. Xiphos0311 says :

    Early Happy New Year to everybody. I hope you, your families and friends have a year worthy of remembrance. May the best thing that happened to you in 2010 be the worst thing in 2011.

  29. koutchboom says :

    Hey everyone good job with the new year and good luck.

  30. Frank Marmoset says :

    It’s 1:11 on 1.1.11.

    Happy new year one and all!

    All the best for a prosperous 2011.

  31. Xiphos0311 says :

    I’m pulling a Frank here, no not disappearing, but posting New Year greetings at 1:11 on 1.1.11.

    Happy New Year and what not.

  32. Jarv says :

    Happy new year and all that.

  33. ThereWolf says :

    Happy New Year to everybody.

    You’re all lovely, even at yer most obstreperousness!

  34. lordbronco says :

    Happy new year, hombres. I partied the night before and just played it safe and hid out at home for the eve thing.

  35. Droid says :

    Happy New Years ladies and germs. Now that the Church of Chang has enjoyed it first full year we can move onto phase two of the master plan.

  36. redfishybluefishy says :

    Happy New Year, folks! Here’s to more shenanigans in 2011. World domination is next on the list, right?

    • Jarv says :

      No- do you know how much admin is involved when you’re running everything?

      I hate admin

      • Continentalop says :

        I agree with Jarv. Let’s be more like Dr. Mabuse than Fu Manchu.

        Fu Manchu wanted to rule the world; Mabuse wanted to rule its ashes.

        (And no, I don’t mean the Ashes).

      • redfishybluefishy says :

        delegate, man, delegate! world domination allows that luxury, no?

  37. Droid says :

    Right, almost watched all the 2010 films I wanted to see before posting my best of list. I’ve seen True Grit (good), The Fighter (meh), and Never Let Me Go (good). Seeing The Way Back tomorrow and 127 Hours comes out on the 5th. After that it’s all systems go.

    • Xiphos0311 says :

      so we should see the best of 2010 some time in 2012 or is it TBA?

    • koutchboom says :


      BUT FUCK TRUE GRIT!!! I gave it a mild review when I saw it, but I just saw the original today and I now say that its one of the most useless remakes of all time. Its fucking Psycho levels of uselessness bad. Like seriously I can’t believe the Brothers Coen even got a screen play credit for adding NOTHING to the original film.

      SPOILERS for the original film.

      The only difference really is that Labuff never leaves. Thats the huge change. EVERYTHING ELSE IS THE FUCKING SAME. That and Briges plays rooster like he smells bad. Its sad how that the film is getting such passes as a good film. While these same critics that are putting it on the years end ten best, shit on redos that actually try something. It actually raises my opinion about the Karate Kid remake, because at least that was a completely new script and take on the basic outline of a plot. True Grit had MINOR FUCKING MINOR changes. I honestly couldn’t believe my eyes when watching the original. Because like nothing was different. Even the fucking dialog that sounded very COEN like was in the original. All in all its just a a fucking worthless not needed remake. Bridges is much more involving in Tron and thats a much better film. WHILE keeping the tone and ideals of the first one without just being a copy. ALSO the score of the original True Grit shits on the new one.

      I mean the remake is FINE….but its fucking useless. Adds nothing but a final failed five minutes and thats about it. The original ending is so much better. Like seriously, you guys know I really don’t know shit about old westerns and fuck holes like Harry do and then they sit there and call True Grit the best film of 2011????? WHAT FUCKING FOR??? For just redoing the same fucking film with a few modern day touches? Its JUST SO fucking worthless that I can’t believe no one has said shit. THAT are people really forgot about the original.

      Even the funny aspect…its the same. Just that the Coen’s film the jokes to hit a little better then the original, but its still just as funny. Its almost pathatic that this film isn’t being called out more, i mean it copies shots even from the first one. I just kept waiting for the original to deviate in some manner from this remake and it never fucking did. HOW ever the Coen’s conned there way into getting SCREENWRITING credit whilst only adding punch up levels of additions to the film its the true glory of this film. Only means more old forgotten films can be fucked with in the same manner.

  38. D.Vader says :

    This has been a shitty year for movie-watching. I’ve only seen a handful of flicks in the theater:

    The Wolfman
    Blood Creek
    Alice in Wonderland
    Clash of the Titans
    The Last Airbender
    Voyage of the Dawn Treader
    TRON: Legacy

    And on DVD or OnDemand I caught:
    Fantastic Mr. Fox
    Iron Man 2

    I’m so damned behind. Finally seeing Inception tonight I hope.

  39. D.Vader says :

    Anyone see The Disappearance of Alice Creed? I’m curious how well the lovely Gemma Arterton acts when completely disrobed.

  40. Jarv says :

    Watching The Box.

    Complete and utter shit on every level

    • D.Vader says :

      I wouldn’t say its shit on every level. Kelly certainly does a good job building atmosphere and convincing you that all the creepy connections and coincidences mean something and are building to one crazy finale/revelation. It kept me hooked.

      I liked that the early parts of the movie felt like an anti-Spielberg movie from the 70’s.

      • Jarv says :

        I disagree with all of that.

        I spent the film bored, mildly irritated and deeply confused.

        Oh, Diaz was wretched as well.

      • D.Vader says :

        You didn’t like Donnie Darko either, did you?

      • Jarv says :

        I didn’t dislike it, but. I do think it’s massively overrated.

        The Box, on the other hand, was dire. It was just a huge failure.

        Weirdly, I do still really want to see Southland Tales- Stiffler riding to heaven in a magic ice cream van and Buffy as a porn star sounds brilliant.

        I have been warned about it

      • D.Vader says :

        “deeply confused”. I think that was partly the intent.

      • ThereWolf says :

        Southland Tales is incomprehensible.

        Kelly threatened to bring out a longer version on DVD. Never materialised. Wonder why…

      • D.Vader says :

        I think I read Kelly is threatening to make an animated film based on the prequel comic series and also making a movie based on the script that The Rock is reading in the movie…

        I still haven’t seen the flick, but I read the script when I was interning in LA back on 04. The trailer looked completely different from what I had read.

      • Jarv says :

        What the hell is wrong with him?

      • ThereWolf says :

        Animated, really? I did read an interview with him stating there was an expanded version he would like to release – the theatrical cut was something like 140 minutes. And it’s a mess, throwing more minutes at it isn’t going to help.

        Before seeing the film, the last thing I read was about it being a musical! Not quite…

      • D.Vader says :

        Yeah I think I heard about the animated film bit during a story on an interview he gave on Kevin Smith’s Smodcast or something. It was during a response Kelly had to a screening of Smith’s “Red State”, which he liked quite a bit. Of course.

    • Droid says :

      I wouldn’t call it utter shit on every level, but its a bad film and that is all Kellys fault. Kelly is a one hit wonder.

  41. Droid says :

    Southland Tales fucking blows. Its a confusing collection of random scenes starring a bunch of actors all giving career worst performances. Its not an interesting mess either. Its fucking boring and feels like its 6 hours long.

    • Jarv says :

      The Box seemed to take 6 hours. Not to mention that I just didn’t give a fuck about any of the characters. Langella was good, though. Except that Kelly felt a need to explain him. Which just made it more confusing and agonisingly dull.

      • IAmMrMonkey! says :

        Man, I had such high hopes for The Box. It started out so well and then turned into utter shit. It was like getting together with a fine-looking woman who, when she finally takes her clothes off, turns out to have these horrible snapping mouths with jagged teeth covering her body. And she wants to crap on your face.

      • Continentalop says :

        I don’t know you IAmMrMonkey, but it seems we’ve dated the same girl.

      • Xiphos0311 says :


        IamMrMonkey is an old regular from AICN that went AWOL for a year or so.

      • Continentalop says :

        My apologies Mr. Monkey. Welcome.

        Also, I don’t know about you, but I found out she could give a pretty good hummer with those snapping jaws.

    • Xiphos0311 says :

      The only good part of Southland Tales was watching a hot for once Buffy from the TV show talking about anal sex.

      • koutchboom says :

        I liked the special features where The Critic admits to not having any idea as to what the fuck the movie is about but trusting the screen writer of Domino had to say.

  42. koutchboom says :

    Also fellas I’m watching Withnail and I right now. I try to make new years resolutions I can follow through on. While last year I failed. I said I would watch longer movies and….. I only saw one film over 3 hours and that was JFK last fucking week.

    SOOOO this year I’m going to listen to the recommendations of the people I respect. So I’m starting with Jarv’s recommendation of With Nail and I. Hopefully Xiphos/Conti/Kloipy will help me out throughout the year.

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