Burt Gummer’s Rec Room- November 2010 Archive

A gathering place for firearms enthusiasts, paranoid survivalists and those who worship at the Church of Chang.


Over 1 year old and we’ve still got the same attitude problem. Still, things have been very quiet since the collapse of the Soviet Union.


Disclaimer: This is the part of the Church that is the most no holds barred. None of it is intended with malice, and although it can on occasion seem a little bit fraught, it is banter rather than venom.

4,418 responses to “Burt Gummer’s Rec Room- November 2010 Archive”

  1. Toadkillerdog says :


  2. koutchboom says :

    I fear not enough of you are voting for Sloppy Sam, this needs to be rectified immediately.


  3. Toadkillerdog says :

    Hey Droid! Wow a live moonwolf!
    I am doing well, and you?

  4. Toadkillerdog says :

    It has been quite a while, I do not know my way around the site any longer. I still seem to be having posting issues.

    • Frank Marmoset says :


      Good to see you back.

      If you’re having trouble negotiating the site, just knock a few drinks back, that should sort you out.

    • Droid says :

      Posting issues? If you mean that it takes ages to load when you hit Post Comment, it’s because we’re at the end of the month and there is over 4k comments in this TB. It’s refreshed anew at teh start of the month and is briefly hassle free to post.

      When you post, just wait 5-10 seconds and hit refresh.

  5. koutchboom says :

    Speaking of Julia Stiles’s, I saw her last in Edmound. And interesting failure of a film. Not bad just didn’t fully work. But she’s becoming one of thost ALMOST actresses. I think she’s realizing slowly that she’s going to have to show’em in order to stay relevant in this buisness.

  6. koutchboom says :

    I also thought of another show I’m up to date on thats a little bit of alright.

    Warehouse 13. Its a fun show. Its on the Syfy network. I usually don’t like the cut of their jib but that show is a ball of fun. I like the Bones guy on that show much better then anything else I’ve seen him in, he doesn’t have a stick up his arse like he’s had in everything else.

    Also if you ARE watching that show, fuck me on that season finale!!!!

  7. koutchboom says :

    Frank about The Walking Dead. I think the characters are so uninteresting because they are all generic as shit. Like any twist that show has had are pretty lame. Only Norman Reedus is the slightly off kilter character, because he’s not the typical redneck idiot like his brother was. But he’s still not that interesting.

    • Frank Marmoset says :

      Yep, I totally agree. They’re all very generic characters. I’ve been waiting patiently for the writers to add a few twists to make them a little more interesting, but so far it’s the kind of character writing you can see on any soap opera.

      • koutchboom says :

        Yeah the odd thing about the show, is that its making me question the comic greatly! I’m like…fuck did I just make it that much better in my head? But now thats its gotten a lot further away from the comic its not messing with me as much.

    • just pillow talk says :

      I gave it a grand total of 2 episodes and gave up.
      A show about zombies taking over the world without zombies. Instead we get domestic disputes and whatnot.

      Fuck off Walking Dead.

      • koutchboom says :

        JPT have you done Deadset? Its much better. Its like a side story to 28 Days Later.

      • just pillow talk says :

        I never even heard of it, so I just looked it up.
        An interesting concept that was thrown on E4 channel??? So I take it the human drama played out much better?

      • koutchboom says :

        Eh its not that dramatic. Its just a lot more fun. Its really fasted paced as well. The whole show is like 2 1/2 hours and it doesn’t feel like a second is wasted. Also its sort of scary in parts. Its just better overall. Also these are 28 Days Later Zombies, not Romeo zombies.

      • Droid says :

        “Oh Romeo, Romeo. Where for art thou, Romeo?”


      • just pillow talk says :

        Fast paced? So it’s the anti-Walking Dead.
        Dead set isn’t on netflix..I wonder if they are ever going to get copies?

      • koutchboom says :

        Yeah I don’t know. They just aired it on IFC thats where I caught it. Its online.

  8. Toadkillerdog says :

    You guys are great, I am very happy to see you are still doing that. I was doing some reading last night on the site .

    So, to Barfy – thank you darlin. Very nice welcome.

    To Xi – I read what you said about the 3rd Army. I could not agree more, because one of my all time personal heroes the criminally underrated Gen. Elwood Quesada -the man whose strategies made the 3rd army so great. Patton deserves credit for being a great administrator and self promoting motivator and a fop if you want o know my own opinion who saw the potential and was smart enough to use it, but it was Quesada that invented the strategy that allowed for the success.

  9. Toadkillerdog says :

    Hey Jarv, hey Pillow hey Frankie

    Jarv, I know you and Frankie abuse your eyeballs and brain cells with schlock, but I apologize if i influenced your decision to watch galaxina. Rock eater and the porno song and Stratten in a skin tight jumper could not save that flick.

  10. Toadkillerdog says :

    Walking dead. In the immortal words of Jarv ‘ I could not be arsed’

  11. Toadkillerdog says :

    I will check in with you guys later. Just wanted to say Hola and i am very glad you are still doing what you are doing.

  12. Toadkillerdog says :

    Almost forgot to give Koutch a hey. Hey!

  13. Jarv says :

    Scanners 3 review coming tonight. Unless anyone has anything then I’ll hold it.

  14. LB says :

    Wow U2, you’ve managed to make mw haTE BOTH COMIC BOOKS AND MUSIC AT THE SAME FUCKING TIME:


    Fucking Alan Moore was the last one to accomplish that!


  15. Droid says :

    Found Hawk The Slayer. Can’t find A*P*E. Anyone know where I can acquire a copy?

  16. koutchboom says :

    FUCK ALLLLL OF YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    AAAAAAAAAAhahahahaha. In my never ending war to prove that Sam Rockwell is only a hard shell in which he steals other performances to wear, namly Gary Oldman. Conti so lovingly pointed out that Sam in Galaxy Quest has nothing to do with Gary Oldman what so ever, not no way, not no how.

    WELL BAM!!!!!!!!!!


    BILL PAXTON. I’ll take it, good enough.


  17. koutchboom says :

    FUCK ALLLLL OF YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    AAAAAAAAAAhahahahaha. In my never ending war to prove that Sam Rockwell is only a hard shell in which he steals other performeances to wear, namly Gary Oldman. Conti pointed out that Sam in Galaxy Quest has nothing to do with Gary Oldman what so ever, not no way, not no how.

    WELL BAM!!!!!!!!!!


    BILL PAXTON. I’ll take it good enough.


    • Jarv says :


      Someone get Koutch a donut. I think his blood sugar has crashed.

    • Frank Marmoset says :


      Keep fightin’ the good fight, Koutch!

      We all have have to pick our battles in life, and you have wisely chosen to pick the battle of ‘noticing that one actor sometimes takes inspiration from other actors’, which I’m pretty sure is something no other actor in the history of thespianry has ever done. Ever.

      Climb every mountain, Koutch! Shout it from the rooftops! Take your message to the people! DO NOT REST UNTIL EVERY MAN, WOMAN AND CHILD ON THIS BLESSED EARTH IS AWARE OF YOUR TREMENDOUS INSIGHT!!!

      I wish you God speed, sir!

      • koutchboom says :


      • just pillow talk says :

        For such a stirring speech, I sure hope that wasn’t dipped in a vat of sarcasm.

        Because that would NOT be classy.

      • Frank Marmoset says :

        Oh no, no sarcasm at all. Not even a little bit. Nary a smidgen. Sarcasm, be gone! Get thee behind me, sarcasm!

        Must go now. 10 Things I Hate About You awaits.

      • koutchboom says :

        Speaking of 10 things. I wonder how long Sam’s gonna let Heath’s death sit before he starts tackling his back catalog of iconic roles.

      • just pillow talk says :

        Uh-oh…prepare for a Droid attack on that one….

    • koutchboom says :

      Heheheh LB gets his first laugh since the early 80s.

      Too bad I’m actually too fat to masterbate, my stubby little arms just don’t reach. Thats why I got a Dyson.

    • Frank Marmoset says :

      The most impressive thing about that story is that the guy was spotted wanking, the police were called, they arrived and were shown the guy in the audience, and he was still wanking away!

      Now that is either a very fast police response to what is, let’s be honest, a relatively minor crime, or that guy has some serious stamina.

      • koutchboom says :

        Well in the US (formerly a British territory) most movie houses have cops/security hanging out outside on weekends and sometimes during the week.

        Now were it a $1 theater, then Id be surprised that he was even caught at all.

  18. Droid says :

    Right guys, all I can find are torrents. So Jarv, if you can grab this I’ll get it from you.

    Google search…

    APE 1976 shitbusters

    and you will find lots of torrent links. Shitbusters is what the person who ripped the film calls himself. I also saw that he brought us such amazing rips as The Pit and Red Scorpion.


    • Frank Marmoset says :

      It doesn’t look like any of those torrents have seeders, which is a bummer.

      I’ve tried searching FilesTube, Stagevu and The Pirate Bay under all its different names and have come up with precisely zip for my efforts.

      There’s one used copy of the DVD for sale on Amazon, but it’s £34.99!

      Where are you, you damn dirty A*P*E!?

    • Jarv says :

      I’ve checked loads of different places and there are no seeds.

      Cinemageddon would have it, because that was my source for this stuff. But it’s fucked.

  19. Continentalop says :

    I found this fascinating – a scientific explanation for aesthete beauty:

  20. Droid says :

    Nice vid there Conti. Since you’ve upped the ante, I’d like to post one I find fascinating…

  21. Droid says :

    Speaking of fascinating… hehe

    • Frank Marmoset says :

      Holy shit, that video was awesome. Just awesome.

      A nice reminder that Nicolas Cage is the most insane actor alive. It also makes me want to watch The Wicker Man again, even though I already re-watched it recently.

      Thanks for that, Droid.

      • Droid says :

        I know. Cage is a legend. Do you know what movie it was where he was wearing the wig (doesn’t narrow it down) and the moustache (maybe that will help)? It looked nuts!

      • koutchboom says :

        Cage wig and mustache and bad wig, Kick Ass?

        Cage with Mustache also Raising Arizona, 9-11 the movie.

      • Frank Marmoset says :

        Droid – I think the film with the wig and the mustache is Deadfall:


        I’m not sure I’ve seen it, but it’s supposed to be bananas.

      • koutchboom says :

        Its got the Biehn factor!!! And its directed by Nic’s brother Chris!!! FUCK YEAH and Coburn! That movie looks awesome.

        FUCK and Charlie Sheen! Jesus.

      • koutchboom says :

        I’m renting it this week.

      • koutchboom says :

        Speaking of Nics brother. I’ll post a video of the opening of his new TV show the Digivangalist. Its fucking AWFUL. But I think it was made by kids? You just gotta see it.

        Its soooo fucking odd watching that show, mainly because it soo lame. But also because Chris sounds and asks just like Nic, a little cornier but he looks like he’s about to rape you.

      • D.Vader says :

        Where is… the Declaration of Independence?! TELL ME! TELL ME NOW YOU BASTARDS!

      • D.Vader says :

        Since I don’t know how to embed videos…

        Here’s SNL’s Back to the Future auditions where Andy Samberg plays Nic Cage:

      • ThereWolf says :

        I’ve got Deadfall in the hat for a future ‘Biehn Season’.

  22. D.Vader says :

    Damn you fuckers move fast around here. I’ve got no time to keep up.

  23. D.Vader says :

    Oh nice, ToadKillerdog showed up!

  24. LB says :

    Billy Idol is 55:

  25. Frank Marmoset says :

    Bloody American telly.

    New Fringe this week, new Fringe next week, then nothing until January 28th!

    Irregular bastards!

    • Frank Marmoset says :

      Also, I will bet the farm that the last episode before that long break will end in a pig of a cliffhanger.

      Cliffhanger bastards!

    • Frank Marmoset says :

      Her to speak Engerlish is not the good, yeah?

      Actually, I shouldn’t be mean. It’s probably an adorable little Mexican girl or something.

      As to Kristen Stewart playing Buffy – I can’t see it happening. Seems like she wants to distance herself from Twilight once the film series is over, and joining another potential franchise about a teen who falls for a vampire is probably not the best way to do that.

      • Jarv says :

        She’s also meant to be in Martyrs remake.

      • Droid says :

        I’d see the new Buffy if they cast Amber Heard.

        In fact, I’d see *insert movie name here* if they cast Amber Heard.

      • koutchboom says :

        I’ve been meaning to see that Ameircan Psycho authors other book with her in it.

        But only because I’m a fan of the author……

      • koutchboom says :

        The informers, thats the tit. I mean the one.

      • Droid says :

        I like Ellis, but that book is terrible. I couldn’t even finish it. The Informers is what its called. The film is pretty bad as well, but Heard spends a large portion of the movie naked so its good if you want to watch a movie where Amber Heard gets naked a lot.

        She’s in the Rum Diaries which needs to hurry up and come out. If she plays the character I think she’s playing then its great casting.

  26. Droid says :

    Zoolanders on tv. No, not Mitchell Johnson, Jarv. Haven’t seen this in ages.

    Milla Jovovich is in this?

  27. MORBIUS says :


  28. MORBIUS says :


    Here is YouTubes Flash Gordon Movies Channel.


    If someone already posted this link…

    • D.Vader says :

      MORBIUS! Heyya pally.

      • MORBIUS says :

        Hey D.Vader, ‘sup?

        I was just over in Gingerville, a poster was using
        the screen name DVaderRIP.

        When I read your post I thought of the TV show
        Dinosaurs, Earls friend always called him pally-boy!

      • D.Vader says :

        Yeah I’ve seen that guy around, and I wonder who it is… I won’t be able to post there again until after Christmas, but so far I don’t think anyone has thought DVaderRIP was me.

        “Pally-boy”, that was the T-Rex voiced by the douche making Polish jokes in Raising Arizona!

  29. koutchboom says :

    Watching I’m Still Here. Its an interesting mess.

  30. Frank Marmoset says :

    Morning, folks. Pinch, punch and that.

    According to the imdb, three of my favourite funny people were born today – Woody Allen, Richard Pryor and Sarah Silverman. So happy birthday to them.

  31. Frank Marmoset says :

    Julia Stiles update:

    Saw 10 Things I Hate About You last night, which was actually pretty good. It’s no Mean Girls or Bring It On, but it’s one of the better teen high school thingies I’ve seen. Very enjoyable.

    So that makes Ms Stiles 1 and 0 so far.

  32. Droid says :

    I found a really nice looking copy of A*P*E last night! I duly acquired it and tested it this morning. It’s in fucking GERMAN! What do the humourless krauts want with a dumbhouse giant ape movie?


  33. Frank Marmoset says :

    “Are you going to kill me?”

    “No, I’m going to get answers. And if I find out that you did anything to Olivia… then I’m going to kill you.”


  34. Frank Marmoset says :


  35. Frank Marmoset says :



  36. Frank Marmoset says :

    Bored now.

    Fuck this place.

  37. Frank Marmoset says :

    So I read Frank Darabont has fired The Walking Dead’s entire writing staff.

    If they’re looking for a new writer to fill the show with kung fu, nudity and bad jokes, they should know I’ prepared to work very cheaply. Diet Pepsi and sandwiches, really.

    Have your people contact my people, Mr Darabont. We’ll do lunch.

    • Tom_Bando says :

      Pssst-Frankie—the A*P*E* watching, right-thinking populace has moved onto December. Just wanted you to know.

      Like the hat!

    • Jarv says :

      I like your stubborn dedication to this thread Frank.

      And your new festive look too.

    • D.Vader says :

      Whaaaaaaaaaa? After such a successful season?

      • koutchboom says :

        Is that true Frank? Because he can’t really fire Robert Kirkman, who wrote the worst episode.

      • koutchboom says :

        Well I guess it is:


        But Kirkman doesn’t really count since he’s not on the writing staff.

      • Frank Marmoset says :

        Frank Darabont wrote the first two episodes (the ones I liked the most), everything else was by other people.

        Apparently, the idea is to work with freelance writers next year. Not sure how that works, but since the non-Darabont episodes were where the show slid downhill I’m fine with them not coming back for season 2.

        Hopefully, the new writers will be able to add some colour to the characters.

      • Jarv says :

        From what everyone’s said, I strongly doubt that.

      • Frank Marmoset says :

        The premise is solid enough. But if they’re going to make the show primarily a character based drama, they really need well written characters or the whole thing becomes boring (which is what’s happened). The problem with the first season is the characters are just too weak to hold anyone’s interest.

        My guess is Darabont knows that, which has prompted this move. I’ve never heard of an entire writing staff being given the boot before, so I’m assuming he knows a shake-up is needed.

      • koutchboom says :


  38. Frank Marmoset says :


  39. Frank Marmoset says :

    Okay, let’s try again:

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