Burt Gummer’s Rec Room- July 2012 Archive
A gathering place for firearms enthusiasts, paranoid survivalists and those who worship at the Church of Chang
July in Perfection. Clear blue skies and big fucking worms. What more could we want?
Disclaimer: This is the part of the Church that is the most no holds barred. None of it is intended with malice, and although it can on occasion seem a little bit fraught, it is banter rather than venom. So, be warned that this is like taking a naked swim in a piranha tank and not recommended for the faint of heart.
Barfy
kloipy
Echo the Bunnyman
Judge Droid
Jarv
ThereWolf
Xiphos0311
Werewolves On The Moon 
What I watched because of some crappy weather
Little Man Tate I like this movie a lot
Bad Boys great fun
some episodes of Leverage which is a TV show its lightweight fluff but entertaining
some other TV: White Collar, which seems to be back on track. Breaking Bad which might finally be living up to its unearned praise since Mike is now a main player and a total bad ass Walts still a dink and there wasn’t enough Pinkman but still the first two eps were very good. Warehouse 13 which is another extremely lightweight but fairly entertaining nothing of a show.
Some other movie I’m forgetting.
What season are you on in White Collar? I’ve seen up to the end of season 3. Thought 2 was a bit ho-hum, but liked 3 and it ended well. Good set up for 4.
I’m on the current season that just started not sure the number perhaps 5? I found the previous season to be very uneven and not of much interest.
its the same issue as Insomnia vs Insomnia…the reason the Nolan remake doesnt often get dubbed ‘pointless’ is it came at a time when foreign films had less exposure (theaters in US were just starting to show subtitled movies at mainstream multiplexes) and almost no one had seen Insomnia. The gap between the two movies was also only a couple of years. Yet I meet plenty of people who really love Insomnia 2.0. I like it, but prefer the original.
The original is vastly superior, in my opinion.
It’s strange, they only seem to do it to Swedish/ Norwegian films- Nightwatch, Insomnia, LTROI, Dragon Tats all had remakes very quickly after the original.
Aggravating, frankly.
Fucking stealing this line- from the Guardian about 50 Shades of Grey:
Actually- that whole article is really funny:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/jul/29/victoria-coren-fifty-shades-of-grey
The last paragraph is gold:
a new gaslight could be phenomenal…Up until the end, I was mostly with WIB. Great atmosphere…less cgi…Radciffe as husband would be good.
They are actually making this Jarv? Or is it another wishlist movie?
Yes- it’s announced.
Potential for this is huge. It’s simple, inexpensive, and cast properly could be fantastic. Keep close to the play, and don’t over-egg the pudding and you’re away.
Funny about Gaslight…it does enter into the pointless remake discussion.
Not the new one–although keep it from being modern, set it period and keep the ambience, tension, mystery etc– but the old 1944 one.
It was a very close remake of a film made only four years earlier. Both are very good films, although I do prefer the remake. At the time though, they probably also looked ‘pointless’
It’s true!
I didn’t even know that it was a remake.
You can’t set it modern- the whole play relies on Victorian lighting.
even more hateful (as you like to say) is that the studio of the remake tried to get all the prints of the original destroyed…haha, good way to eliminate the ‘pointless’ debate.
Goes to show that this isn’t new,
Jarv you wouldn’t be interested in doing a Gaslight review for PCN would you? the old one or remake vs old one?
Not due until 2013.
You’ll have to remind me.
Im sorry, I meant the classic one when I said remake…and comparison would be the 44 and the 40 one. Sorry for lack of clarity.
If I can find them, gladly.
Sounds like fun. I’ve never seen the 40 one. Didn’t even know it existed.
It looks like most Gaslight dvds I see are sold as the 44 version but also have the 40 version on the disc as well.
Must be out there somewhere then.
also, I wish stuff like this happened more often today:
In MGM’s script, Charles Boyer was supposed to have told Ingrid Bergman at the end that he had loved her all along. This was an addition to the play made by the screenwriter. David O. Selznick, when reading over the script, was horrified and promptly sent MGM one of his famous long and involved memos, this one ordering the studio to omit the line, which it did.
That line would totally undermine the entire film, and particularly the last act.
Yuck.
Black Water or Noise?
Eh, Koutch?
OH JESUS JARV! YOUR DREAMS HAVE COME TRUE!
I see Petey Jackson is going to bloat The Hobbit to an unwatchable size. Pete let it go its barely two movies three is just reCOCKulous. The third flick better be all about the battle of 5 armies and you best not screw up the best part of the whole story the charge of the Last King Under the Mountain and his traveling companions. You fuck that up and the entire bloated mess is shit canned as far as I’m concerned.
All that stuff will be put in the first two, third Should be the infamous ‘linking film’ that del toro was sposed to put out back when.
Needs Giant robots.
Ah-Finally got to see TDKR- *and* now can read reviews. Liked it quite alot. Jonah’s review is particularly well-written-liked weinberg’s as well. But to finally get to read the infamous Knowles review-ha ha. good God-it has to be a lack of set visits and toy props. I mean seriously, ranting about “Knightfall graphic novel-which i never read b/c that came out right around the time that I realized comic books are over-priced pieces of crap-it’s like who cares. Anyway, the one decent AICN twitterer-can’t remember which one said-don’t blame me-I only work there. That was good for a LOL
Oh now I gotta go hunt down Armond White’s TDKR review, and FILM CRITIC HULKS reviews :-))
Naw fuck Film Critic Hulk he blows, that’s one of David Fatass’s butt buddies and isn’t funny.
*sighs*-this is why you are blocked and reported as spam, oh wait that was 2 years ago.
perhaps you can naysay my awesome Twilek avatar. Say some stupid shit like she isn’t hot.
Her light saber is green-she hangs out in the PVP zones and unzips fools guts day and night.
Boobs, K-Boom. Boobs.
Maybe someday you’ll see some.
Hehehehe yeah because you blocking me on Twitter means anything? Clueless as always. Hey where’s your movie trailer? Also why the fuck would anyone ever side with David Farci anyway? You think your some clueless interner dork? He pretty much is the definition of it. Whatever keep reading Badass Diguest and never understanding your surrondings like always.
And why the fuck would I make fun of your Avatar? I’m like the only person who loves Clone Wars?
I think I’m following you. But you don’t half chat some shit.
Still, I suppose that’s what Twitter is for.
I’m following Bronco too. He’s on twitter non-stop
You’re on Twitter? Nerd. Do you use it to pimp our site at least? That’s the only reason I was considering signing up for it.
Only got it the other day. Yes, I shall be doing that.
I had to sign up at that stupid Social Media training thing I was at.
Aside from laughing at spoofs of 50 Shades of Grey, it’s pretty pointless. I’m trying to find Don Murphy’s Twitter address so I can abuse him. Or has Knowles got one?
Yeah Twitter is stupid now. It was fun for a while, now it’s just the same 10 opinions passed around by everyone and no more discussion just people trying to out quip one another. For the life of me I’m still on it, probably cause I’m bored.
Yeah as you can see Bronco blocked me (2 years ago he says? Has it been that long? Jesus), I don’t recall if I was every actually following him though. Did he ever drop a trailer for his movie?
Dunno. I haven’t seen it.
What did you say to get banned?
Because he doesn’t understand things.
You can block people on twitter, he blocked me, though I don’t think I ever talked to him on there. And you can report people as spam, he probably did that to me. Before it used to be you can’t see their feed, now that doesn’t matter even if he’s still blocked me I can look at his feed (and even then if I wanted to I could log off then go to his feed and read it). Now it just means I can’t follow him (tear). I can still send shit to him, don’t know if he actually gets it or not? I know when someone replies to me and I don’t follow them I usually miss it because I don’t get an e-mail notification like I do with my followers.
I don’t block people (though I may have done it to LB because we thought it was funny) because I’m not a child. But now LB joins the mighty allegiance of The Oatmeal and The Horror Movie A Day Blog guy (don’t know what I did to him, I think it was because I spoiled the end to ehhhhh that one fucking Alien Invasion movie with Eric Baulfor, anyways he was a bit of a bitch to begin with).
Skyline?
I started following loads, but then unfollowed them. Fucking idiots retweeting Revolver UK is getting to me so much that I’m thinking about closing the account.
Yeah that’s the one. I was tweeting BALFOURBRAINSTOSTRONGFORYOU after everything I said because I thought it was funny, and I follow a lot of Eric Balfour fans and they were loving it.
Yeah I sort of stopped looking for people to follow or caring about people following me. Pretty much once you hit 200 followers 90% of your followers are spam or worthless anyway.
That is quite funny. No reason to chuck a hissy fit anyway.
Yeah most people on twitter will cry over anything.
I did feel sorry for the British Weightlifting chick- she’s 18, and was in some documentary. Instantly Twitter was full of people calling her a lesbo.
Mind you, the Guardian didn’t help describing her performing in her event as “Snatch intimidation”. I thought that’s what Le Hulk suffered from.
Was she a big girl? I recorded that the other day. Not on purpose its this PBS series I have set to record every week. Didn’t watch it though. Knowing that she’s British now, I wish I had.
Well, yes. She is a weightlifter after all. Stick Zoe Smith into google.
Heheheh that girls not bad. The documentary I had wasn’t about her though, it was some American. Google – Cheryl Haworth.
She’s relatively normal from the waist up.
She is only 18 though. Wait till the roid’s kick in. She’ll be like King Kong by the next Olympics.
Fucking hell, by the way.
That’s a beast. Zoe looks tiny in comparison to that Sea Monster.
Hehehe yeah that’s what I was saying. That documentary looked scary that’s another reason I didn’t watch it.
Man stupid fucking DVR, only blocks out the olympics as 8 hour chunks. I just wanted to see some events but I have to record the WHOLE fucking block. It’s annoying. I mean with time delays and everything you think they could break it down into half hour segments or hour segments.
No I need to see when women’s power lifting it on.
It’s finished.
Try the BBC- you can pick events on it. You may have to use a proxy server to get it though.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/
That’s NBC responsible for that- they’re staggering the Olympics depending on where you live in the states to maximise ad revenue.
Which makes a mockery out of “Live” sport.
Yeah I don’t care about the LIVE sport concept. I just don’t see who the fuck is watching the olympics besides stay at home LB types? How the fuck am I suppose to catch anything when the Olympics air from 9:00AM-5:00PM?
I’d rather they just hold it off till 5:00PM then air half hour/hour shows I can record and watch the sports I want to watch at my leasuire. Any way still need to find a copy of that Underworld: Rise of The Deaf song.
Meh, can’t say I care, to be honest- but it does defeat the point of “Live” sport.
Yeah I know, I mean sure they can air the 8 hour blocks all day for the live feed effect. I just want some tighter edited blocks for when the working come home, and not just some sports night highlight real.
The BBC are letting you pick the sport. I’m surprised that NBC aren’t doing the same.
Let’s face it, I couldn’t give a fuck about most of it, although I did find the archery weirdly compelling the other day, but with the 82 million channels available to Yanks, I’m surprised that you can’t do this.
Well you can go online and watch the solo events, and that’s fine I dont care enough to do that.
I mean it may just be my provider but it seems like other people have the same issue. You go to your guide and it’ll just have a block of time carved out on several channels saying: 2012 SUMMER OLYMPICS 9AM-5PM – Women’s Boxing, 1st Round Swimming, Running, Basketweaving, Flyi… and then it’ll run out of space and doesn’t even list all the events going to be covered in that 8 hour block so you gotta go online and see if the event you are interested in is on sometime during that period.
Yeah I don’t know why they can’t just do that, then after 5 just have half hour segments called TENNIS ROUND 1, WOMENS WEIGHTLIFTING, SOCCER SPAIN VS WALES or some shit.
That would be more sensible.
Saw the third goal GB scored the other day. Fecking good. I wish England played like that.
Heheheh as odd as Danny Boyles mind fuck of an opening ceremony was, the oddest thing to me was at the begining with all the old Rugby clips? I assumed it was some famous match he kept cutting to, but also was that his petition to get Rugby as an Olympic sport? And if so…how was that allowed?
I need to see when fencing and ping pong are on again.
Fencing is today. Dunno about Ping Pong.
Rugby 7’s is at the next olympics.
Also, it used to be an Olympic sport back in the day. That ceremony was staggeringly boring shite.
I dug it, mainly for that song. It was impressive to watch. All the pre recorded bits though were lame, like the Queen/James Bond thing where it looked like Daniel never even met the queen. I liked the Mr. Bean bit, I’m glad he’s still a national treasure. I like how most British comedians don’t go completely crazy and ruin their history like most American comedians.
*Cough*
Billy.
Connolly.
*Cough*
Used to be funny. Is now an utter cunt.
Naw he’s always been a cunt. I saw him on House this season he’s still got it.
Nah, he was funny in the 80’s. But see also Ben Elton.
Fucking BBC bought back Absolutely fabulous. Made me die a bit inside, as I hated it in the 90’s. It’s still shite.
I think now is the time for a Roy Chubby Brown comeback.
Or at least Zig and Zag.
Simon cowell’s first number 1
Ugh I hate 7’s. So fucking boring to play and watch. But I guess it’s truncated time makes it perfect for the Olympics.
Shite game, 7’s.
Better than League, but it’s pointless. Too much space and no skill involved just speed. Go and run the 100m.
And it’s funny I’m a pretty good completionist at all things in life…except twitter. I just pull it up whenever look at what’s there right then, then either Engage Jean Luc style, or fart then leave. Some people I know on twitter NEED to read everything that was said since the last time they logged on. So that means I don’t give a fuck really what’s on my feed. Yeah I’ll unfollow some people/things if they do post tons and tons of shit, but for the most part I don’t care. I saw it as this always happening conversation you could just hop in and out of. Now it’s just this weeks opinions followed by boring self promotion.
It is crazy though these people able to self promote somehow through twitter/facebook and other means, especially when 99.9% of them have really nothing to offer/give. It fascinates me though, the drive of people with 0 creativity/originality/life/anything new to say.
What’s also odd is that i find people being more real (or used to anyway) on Twitter than Facebook. Facebook now has just become a barage of anti some political party, religious quotes, famous quotes, baby/animal pictures, self promotion. I’ve had more in depth/interesting conversations with weirdos I’ve found on twitter in the past 2ish years than I have with people I actually know in the flesh relm on facebook.
Facebook’s wank though. The one thing it’s useful for is to keep tabs with overseas family like the missus does. I don’t care what some cunt that I barely remember from school is up to.
Take note Snyder:
David Mitchell, author of Cloud Atlas.
Anyone read Gravity’s Rainbow? Sounds like shite to me, but I’m thinking about what to buy to go to Spain with.
Maybe not. It sounds horrible.
Having read more, Hanks and Hugh Grant appear countless times in it- playing up the Reincarnation idea more than the baton-passing.
This worries me. Hanks as Dr. Goose I can see, but I can’t see the fat toad in any of the other stories.
I’ve just started reading it last night.
You’ll see what I mean, though, when you get to the later stories.
Knowles, again proving why he shouldn’t be allowed to criticise film:
Chariots of Fire is a more “Award friendly” film than Raiders. I, personally, prefer Raiders, but you can see why CoF won.
Anyone seen Cherry Bomb? Should I bother? Or is it Nude Nuns with Guns rather than Bitch Slap again?
Harolds opinion of Gandhi the next year vs ET must be priceless then. Ditto Annie Hall and Star Wars ’77. Get over it Harold its just a fucking Awards show doesnt mean shit after the fact. Christ someone give that tool a thorazine.
I’m sure I’ve seen him rant about Star Wars being better than Annie Hall and it being a robbery before.
Fuck’s sake:
Shafted.
Pah. Bioshock Infinte has been pushed back.
Are those bad numbers for 3 theaters? If not then whys that bad? A lot of small/”art” films open in a couple of theaters at first.
I’d imagine that was quite good, to be honest.
What I meant is it only getting 3 theatres.
Well lets see what happens next, if 3’s as big as it gets they yeah it’s fucked. But a lot of indy films start with three then grow, granted some of them report way bigger numbers, like I’m thinking Black Swan may have the record, I’m not sure lemme go check.
Hrmmm 18 theaters for $80,212.
3 for 37K is arguably better than that, I suppose. Strikes me as a very silly way to do it.
Yeah once you get past the Disney movies (odd that they do that?) there are some better numbers here.
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/weekends/theateravg.htm?page=THTRAVGOPN&adjust_yr=2012&p=.htm
Also the movie is NC-17 here. I’m excited to see it. It either didn’t come to this film festival near me or it did and I missed it. I thought it was coming to the art theater as well but when I looked last night it wasn’t showing on their schedule orrr I missed it again.
Looking at that $38K ain’t much.
Yeah I know, I thought the number sounded decent but looking at that, it doesn’t even make the top 200. BUT then you look at this:
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/domestic/mpaa.htm?page=NC-17&p=.htm
and it’s doing alright.
That’s a great list. I smell a series there:
Possibly for Pillows, admittedly.
I’m also amazed Henry and June made that much. Stunned.
Yeah FUCK! The Cook, The Thief, His Wife and Her Lover, I was at my mums place and that was on and I recorded it but never got a chance to watch it. I wonder if she will ever watch it or she just deleted it? FUCK I want a box set of that directors work, not to own just to borrow for a year and slowly watch.
I bet that movie that Office fuck did with him is probably the best thing he’ll ever do. I mean come this Christmas he’s career is over…probably more so than Elijah’s.
Greenaway?
I think he’s a bit overrated, to be honest. Cook is good, but shite like 8 1/2 Women and The Pillow Book are awful. I’ve got a feeling he did 9 songs as well, which is best described as really boring sex set to really boring music.
Winterbottom did 9 songs. I saw it. Save for the girl looking like a slightly less ugly Jillenhall brother with no boobs, yeah it was pretty worthless.
I just wanna see some Greenaway films, mainly Cook and his Rembrandt shit.
BAHAHAh look at his IMDB profile picture:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000425/
Worthless indeed. Even as porn.
Cook is OK, Prospero’s Books is OK as well, if you can get past naked Gielguld.
Man speaking of worthless Winterbottom needs to do something good soon, or pick up a Bond movie are Twilight are someshit if he wants to be relevant.
I like “art” directors, but I also like to see them do something mainstream, just to show that YES they understand how the process works and they can make a basic movie for normal everyday people. That’s why I give Lynch a break because he’s proven he’s not just some complete weirdo, he just prefers that. Same with Anderson after Fantastic Mr. Fox. And that’s why I wanna see some of Greenaway’s films, to see just what the fuck he’s like.
Oh yeah been meaning to tell you about this doc that I’ve seem to have been watching for the past 2 weeks. Do you know Scott Walker? Of the Walker Brothers fame? There is some doc about him called 30th Century Man, that’s fairly interesting. I knew nothing about him. The dude from Pulp in in there a bunch I guess they recorded an album or song together. He’s sort of like a poppier version of Joy Division.
Jarvis Cocker?
I know nothing about Scott Walker, aside from that Blur and Pulp and a few others covered him for some retrospective a few years ago.
Yeah him, I haven’t finished the doc yet. It’s mostly a bunch of talking heads talking about how great and under rated he was. Just thought you may be interested. It’s a fairly by the books doc but yeah I knew nothing about Scott Walker, now I wanna check out some of his stuff.
He’ll be like that Mark E. Smith geezer (the Fall)- loads of artists will reckon he’s the knackers and none of us will ever have heard a single tune.
Yeah there is another doc like that, that’s gotten popular recently The Devil and Daniel Johnston. I actually recorded that the other day but for some reason it didn’t record the last half hour of it so I didn’t watch it.
daniel johnston is several years old now, I think. Good docu though.
K, have you seen The Sound of Noise yet?
Also Winterbottom is indeed overrated. Cook and Prospero are worth watching though. Nightwatching with Freeman was just sort of meh.
Diary of a Wimpy Kid: Dog Days tonight….here comes another solid trilogy
The Sound of Noise, if it’s what I’m thinking, Harold had it on his DVD list and it interest me. But either way no i haven’t seen it.
its the movie with the deaf cop chasing the musical teorrorist band. weird, but made me think of something you’d appreciate it.
Cool I’ll hunt it down.
now Im doing it…meanT Greenaway and typed Winterbottom. Both overrated really.
The Claim is quite good though.
Ha Ha Koutch, I blocked and reported you as spam because you are a fucking moron. Jarv, if I’m around (It’s a busy week-I’m launching a corporation) i’ll be happy to introduce you around. I have more than 1000 followers, so that puts me in the top 95% percentile of internet relevancy. You and Droid would be ace on twitter-it’s quite fun once you learn how to be picky about who you follow. Just popping onto twitter everytime you post an article on moonwolves is perfectly acceptable and would probably enhance your views ten fold with 5 minutes time. i don’t actively pimp moonwolves, though I think it’s arguably the funniest movie blog on internet. I do use it as my default web page address, though. :-))
Why don’t you blog about me some more. WHERE’S THAT FUCKING TRAILER! I’ll retweet it to my 5K Plus followers!
SOCIAL MEDIA FIIIIIGHT!!
RISE! RISE! RISE! RISE! RISE!
Which reminds me, what did you think of TDKR Koutch?
That would require LB to know how twitter and social media works.
As for Rises….I’m hesitant to use the word perfect just because I’m not sure it’s a strong enough adjective but until a find one that is I’ll go with that.
It’s not perfect. There are gaping plot holes in it for one (as with all Nolan movies), but I don’t care about things like that.
Well if you don’t care about those things then how is it not perfect?
Just because I don’t care about them doesn’t mean that they aren’t there.
It’s daft, no film (other than Flash Gordon) is perfect. It’s nearly impossible- which is why the likes of Lucash keep coming back and tampering with them.
Naw as far as the earth and Nolan are concerned Rises is perfect. The only film Nolan will ever tamper with is Memento, and only in trying to get his name removed from it. He doesn’t like being associated with something so small and unepic.
I like TDKR, but still prefer TDK, warts and all.
It ain’t perfect though.
Give you an example- the shite in prison goes on for too long. We don’t need to see him fail multiple times, we get the point after the first failure.
He has to RISE!!!!!
Well it took me three views to finally like TDK, Rises I liked right away and even better a second time. I like Bane better than Joker. The joker role is too easy to me, yeah Heaths good but what Hardy did with Bane is far more impressive to me.
This is personal taste, but I felt that the whole prison section (ignoring the plot hole about his speed of recovery) was overextended.
It could have lost 10 minutes or so.
It’s a really good film, probably the best I’ve seen this year in the Cinema, but it’s a Nolan Batman so there are flaws.
I use twitter but mostly to follow the varied postings of new weasels and the like, dont usually post much.
Koutch did you ever see the Fog of War w Robt McNamara? Its really good consideting.
Apparently Harold hated Inception too? Whats up w that?
I did sleep through it during a morals and ethics class. I should watch it been meaning to.
Right. so i took the carousel of movie updating after launching my production company. Prometheus. Fucking loved it. As the theater ticket taker said-best 3-D movie released this summer. TASM. Slightly better than Thor and actually quite well done, but an hour and 45 minutes too long. TDKR-Fucking awesome. Bane’s Voice was brilliant. The Avengers, the better than TDKR slightly.
I said it once, I’ll say it again TDKR and Avengers and Prometheus were far far better than anybody could have hoped to expect.
Prometheus’ art direction deserves a fucking Oscar b/c it was the best shit I’ve seen in 15 years.
yours sincerely,
-LB
Heheh was Promo this year? Could’ve sworn I caught that on DVD back in April of 2010? Eh probably cause it’s so rehashed. Poor Ridley going to the grave with that being his last turd dropling to come out. Should’ve done Hood 2, it would’ve been a hit at least.
Hey Bronco, good to see you around again. Hope things are going well.
For the record.
TDKR – Great
The Avengers – Decent
TASM – Rubbish
Prometheus – Meh