Burt Gummer’s Rec Room

A gathering place for paranoid survivalists and those who worship at the Church of Chang

August 2015: Dryer than a bone, and hotter than the surface of the sun- yup, it’s summertime in Perfection and El Blanco is on the prowl.

Disclaimer: This is the part of the Church that is the most no holds barred. None of it is intended with malice, and although it can on occasion seem a little bit fraught, it is banter rather than venom. So, be warned that this is like taking a naked swim in a piranha tank and not recommended for the faint of heart.

9,425 responses to “Burt Gummer’s Rec Room”

  1. tombando says :

    *Lost World Uhhh, I still don’t think it’s well put together as a plot. And the whole ship there being munched by a T Rex who can’t get into halls etc. is bullshit. It works as a sequel but it’s certainly not as good. It”s watchable.

    *Jaws. Who doesn’t love this? Holy shit I really just can sit and watch that Indianapolis scene any number of times. Schieder, Shaw and Dreyfuss are so good in this. Genius filming at times.

    *Twilight Zonathon, years 1 and 3. There’s an early episode with Jack Warden ‘on an asteroid’ (Death Valley), they line him up with a Fembot-Jean Marsh, ep has John Dehner in it too. It’s not bad. However, I NEVER noticed-one of the Dehner’s Go-fers is none other then Ted Knight(!). Never ever would have picked that up. But, once you know it, YEAH, that’s him bitching about staying there too long or whatever. Wow. Who knew?

  2. Xiphos0311 says :

    Droid have you ever been to Tasmania or know anything about it? I’m watching a show called The Gloaming, basically Tasmania’s version of Top Of The Lake but with supernatural elements and no white trash.

    The reason I’m asking is that it looks really pretty and should i visit it when i get down under?

    • Judge Droid says :

      I haven’t been to Tassie. I plan on going at some stage soon. It is beautiful. If you’re into camping, hiking, fishing and the outdoors in general then you should enjoy yourself. It’s also small (in relation to the rest of Australia) so you could go for a few days or do a lot of it it pretty comfortably and leisurely in under a week.

      I have The Gloaming. Will watch at some stage.

  3. M. Blitz says :

    If anybody has suggestions for little-seen movies or tv shows, I am all ears. The winter blues are going extra-hard this year, and i’m running out of shit to hit play on. Finally watched Russian Doll. Other than a couple absurdly minor quibbles (36, really? And, sketched out by ketamine, really?) I thought it was great. Glad to have saved it, sorry it went so fast.

    • tombando says :

      Try some of those Quinn Martin Productions(TM)–I’ve been watching Mannix the first couple years and it’s a hoot. You have the Little House on the Prairie guys-Doctor, preacher, store-keeper–showing up as baddies or victims a couple times each season. Or Harry Dean Stanton. Or cameos by Superstar Neil Diamond in concert very very early on. Kinda fun. Plus at least Mannix gets run shot or run over or falls from a Copter or whatever–he
      DOES go to the hospital or have a cast on etc. It’s forgotten the next scene but hey they do better than the A Team on that bit.

      And you get those big boat cars.

      • M. Blitz says :

        I will most definitely be seeking out the Harry Dean Stanton and Neil Diamond eps. Fingers crossed youtube will come through on that. Love them both.

      • tombando says :

        Some of the other guest stars-hrmmm Sarah Kellermann, original Hot Lips on Mash(movie) and in Back to School, Red West (Elvis Memphis mafia guy who had a decent run as a thug in TV into 90s), in the Dean Stanton ep he’s playing a record producer and the act he’s recording is a forgotten ‘Sunshine Pop’ group called Peppermint Trolley(!), all duded up ala Sgt Pepper unis etc. I never heard of them, but typical Bubblegum stuff of late 60’s. And the usual familiar TV faces you know.

      • M. Blitz says :

        Peppermint Trolley! I found one track on a comp credited to that band, BUT there is also The Peppermint Trolley Co. Neither to be confused with Peppermint Rainbow. Love the psych/nuggets flavor+object naming convention a la Strawberry Alarm Clock. Puts a smile on my face.

    • Judge Droid says :

      If you haven’t seen it, and can find it, watch Rake. Brilliant show, especially the first 3 seasons.

      • Judge Droid says :

        Also, I recommend What We Do in the Shadows. Very funny. If you enjoyed the movie, you should enjoy the show.

      • M. Blitz says :

        Rake was an australian show? I was vaguely aware of the greg kinnear version but had no idea. The australian version is on netflix. Global empire is, uh, troubling? Hah. But, silver lining, tv shows in english on 3 continents!

        Thanks for the reminder re What We Do in the Shadows. I’ve had that marked in hulu for awhile, but apparently prefer to pay hulu monthly without actually watching anything. Had completely forgotten about it.

      • M. Blitz says :

        Just started season 2 of Rake. That Cleave is so goddamn charming. Rakishly so, even.

      • Judge Droid says :

        Roxburgh is great. Cleaver could have easily been a shit, smarmy, unlikeable character but Roxburgh gives him some depth and pathos. Good acting and writing.

      • Xiphos0311 says :

        I am going to second the Rake recommendation the show is excellent.

      • Jarv says :

        Thirded. Well worth a watch

      • Jarv says :

        Further, I’d recommend Toast of London. If you like Matt Berry, it’s legitimately hilarious. The Gay Porn one in particular.

        FUCK YOU CLEM FANDANGO

      • M. Blitz says :

        Netflix’s algorithm has also been recommending Toast of London. Will give it a look!

    • Xiphos0311 says :

      here’s a suggestion Blitz and bear with me for a moment because it will sound weird at first but its a solid suggestion.

      on 1 January Netflix dropped a show called Spinning Out, about a former up and coming female figure skater that had suffered a major head wound a year earlier in a match(not sure what to call figure skating things) the story is a typical sports story about her come back as a pair skater. The sports story was surprisingly interesting and I didn’t figure it would be, however what hooked me hard was how it subverted expectations in a good way, Spinning Out wasn’t truly a sports story it was the vehicle to tell a story about living with and dealing with mental illness and how it affects friends, family. work and the people that have it. January Jones from Mad Men was spectacular in it and so was the lead actress who i didn’t know. it a very good fair look at mental illness both the good and that bad that comes with it.

      • M. Blitz says :

        Thanks Xi, watched and enjoyed. Curious if there’s gonna be a season 2 since I didnt want the main gal’s friend Jen’s story to go out like that! And as a closeted-competitive type, it sort of kills me that the final results are unknown. So not the point of the show, I know….

        Agree that January Jones was 100% believable in her role.

      • Xiphos0311 says :

        you’re welcome Blitz. That show was sneaky good. it subverted expectations everywhere like the pretty blond wife not being a bitch or Betty Draper getting her shit together, I really liked it.

      • Xiphos0311 says :

        Unfortunately Blitz I read yesterday that Netflix pulled the plug on Spinning Out so there will not be a second season.

  4. tombando says :

    Well, I hadn’t ever seen Cool Runnings, with John Candy and the Jamaican Bobsledding team from 93. Pretty good. Was funny, a bit on the caricature side at times, but whatevers–hits the Rocky Formula at all the requisite stops along the way. And one of Candy’s last films. He’s okay in it, played the part surly not Jovial John, but always nice to see him. I enjoyed.

  5. Just Pillow Talk says :

    Just started watching Knightfall, 3rd episode in…liking it so far. Templars, holy grail, and all that.

  6. tombando says :

    Saw Two Popes last night, It’s pretty okay, dry, well acted, two guys in Pope Suits(TM) talking, with flashbacks for our Argentinian Friend. I liked the performances of both Hannibal Lector and the Infiniti guy. Well done. Some leaps am guessing by the writers but it rings pretty true, and I learned stuffs about the current Pope that I didn’t know. I think if you give it a shot on Netflix you will like it. Again the car chases(lack of) leave something to be desired sadly.

  7. Jarv says :

    So, anyone apart from me like the Discworld novels? Well, the set pictures from the BBC America adaption of the Watch have been published and OH MY GOD. White hot shit. I have no idea what it is, but it ain’t Discworld.

  8. tombando says :

    Did see 1917 today. Was quite a watch. I liked it. There’s a bit of a video game feel to the guys’ journey after awhile-here’s no man’s land, here’s a dogfight, here’s a blasted out farm, here’s a blasted out town, here’s a white water river part(!), here’s wide open peaceful fields, etc etc.

    But all That besides–it’s well acted, great F/X, it’s scary, it’s moving, it rings true esp the first half hour as they go over no man’s land. I’d def. recommend it.

  9. Xiphos0311 says :

    Blitz the last Bojack Horseman episodes air tomorrow.

    • M. Blitz says :

      I could hardly wait all week and now that it’s here I can’t bring myself to hit play! Prob tonight. Such an absurdly good show.

      • Xiphos0311 says :

        I’m in the same boat. it seems like a millennia since the first half of the season aired. Now that the final episodes are here i don’t want to watch them because that’s it there will be no more. And I agree Bojack is absurdly good. Devastatingly so at times.

      • M. Blitz says :

        Damn those went by fast

      • Xiphos0311 says :

        I thought the show ended in the best way possible.The writing and voice acting was top notch.

      • M. Blitz says :

        Fully agree. Also, diane’s antidepressant ep was hilarious. And I liked Todd’s additions to the Bad Bojack list. I was legit angry with Bojack for not bailing Todd out of jail.

      • Xiphos0311 says :

        The Diane episodes was hilarious. the best part was that she didn’t write her autobiography but wrote a YA novel instead and didn’t even realize it.

      • Xiphos0311 says :

        I’ve been thinking a lot about Bojack this past week or so. They really did a beautiful, soulful and accurate show about mental illness and addiction. It truly was a remarkable run.

      • M. Blitz says :

        I was thinking about rewatching it (again!) if i can manage to drag myself away from all the musicals I’ve been self-medicating with in hopes of staving off the heart attack my job is trying to give me. Def THE series of decade.

        I’m still not over the one about his mom’s dementia. And the one that ends with him as a child sneaking a drink and then curling up with his mom. Amazing that such a hilarious cartoon can be so devastating.

        Did you watch the rotoscoped show he did for Amazon? The name escapes me at the moment. It was good, but I had mixed feelings about it.

      • Judge Droid says :

        The Amazon one is called Undone. I’ve only watched a few eps. It’s alright.

      • M. Blitz says :

        Did you give up on it? Or are you currently watching? The rotoscoping is pretty amazing and the way it’s integrated into what the show is doing is beautiful. A couple other things about it just kind of didn’t sit right with me for what may be entirely personal reasons that wouldn’t hold up to critical scrutiny.

        Continuing from above and to balance out the ferociously sad Bojack eps mentioned, special shout out to Princess Caroline’s Jellicle ringtone and to the abortion ep. I often think of one or the other and cackle softly to myself.

  10. tombando says :

    Recent viewings:

    *Something’s Gotta Give–2003, Jack Nicholson, Diane Keaton, Starsky, Amanda Peete. Another go at ‘As Good as it Gets’ for Jaack, just this time the GF is in his same age group. Very well off NYC entertainment figures-him a Record Company Exec, her a Broadway playwright, hit it off despite Jaack’s penchant for only the under-30 something women. He goes thru a string of them apparently. Anyways–he’s dating Diane’s Daughter(Peete), has a cardiac while they’re staying at Diane’s McMansion in the Hamptons, hi-jinks ensue, they wind up doing falling for each other despite everything. They’ll also always have Paris. It’s pretty good for the Rom Com set, I remember it now as the movie where 56 year old Keaton runs around in her underware a couple times (As does Jaack). It’s a formula movie but hits the stations of the cross just fine. Stay away if you don’t like that kinda thing.

    *Fury–2014. Brad Pitt, Shia, the Punisher and a Sherman Tank in Germany April of 1945. Standard WW2 war movie stuff, couple somewhat contrived sections, but I still liked it, holds up about the same as it did 6 years ago. Worth seeing. Pitt’s pretty okay in this one.

    *Monuments Men-2014. George Clooney, Bill Murray, Matt Damon, etc. You remember this one–they send a special team into Europe late in the war to save all these priceless artworks Nazis stole. I like it fine,, but I think they never figured out just what tone they wanted here-another caper flick ala Ocean’s 11, or something a bit more serious? more of a spoof maybe? And the odd twist at the finale with the Russkis seen as the baddies-sure I get it-but still, this was vs. the Nazis after all. It still works-just–doesn’t add up as well as it should.

    • tombando says :

      Oh a couple more while I’m doing this…

      *Twilight Zone, Second year–it’s the one with the 3 armed Martian and 3 eyed Venusian in the bus top, the half dozen video-taped ones, Art Carney as Santa, the flying saucer invading the old lady(Agnes Moorehead)’s home, Shatner and the penny fortune machine, etc. Good stuff mostly. My fave is the bus station one.

      *Battle of LA-2010. Pretty good. Holds up. Kinda dated with the shambly look to the Aliens tech ala Cowboys and Aliens or Section 9, but it’s fine. Aaron Eckhart and Michelle Rodriguez etc do their things. It has a bit of a Transformers vibe to it too. I like it.

      *The Fighting 69th–Cagney, Pat O’brien, George Brent, etc. WW1 Oirish US brigade doing the bootcamp/Western Front routine, Cagney as belligerent coward proves his worth at end in combat, dies heroically etc. You’ve seen it all before. Not bad considering. Some of the GI’s-Alan Hale Sr and Frank McHugh are rounder than Curly Howard though….

    • Xiphos0311 says :

      Monuments Men is an insulting badly made movie about the exact wrong group of MEN in the wrong place doing amazing things in the name of art, literature and architecture. Clooney decided to honor these MEN by making a shitty reboot of Oceans 13. Fuck Clooney and this garbage.

  11. tombando says :

    Mannix–Yr 6, AKA the one where the show peaked at 7 in the ratings for the year. First disc and a half in—baddie in opening ep–boys that looks like Anthony Zerbe..but it isn’t…Oh–it’s Rip Torn! Next ep–there’s Zerbe! You then get Baltar (Colicos), Robert Mandan and Michael Constantine etc. doing their things. These guys-Charles Cioffi-lived on these shows. Pretty fun stuff despite itself. Remember, it’s a Quinn Martin Production(TM).

  12. Just Pillow Talk says :

    I finished the 2 seasons of Knightfall. Season 1 was I would call it more realistic, per se, in characters’ actions. Not a grand story, straightforward. Season 2 made the villains more cartoonish, more stark in good vs evil I would say. Is it a great series? No, but binging it, it’s fine. I think the battle scenes are fine and Landry is a good enough lead.

    The King – netflix original. This movie was bizarre for me, very choppy storytelling. Joel Egerton mumbled his way through this giving “guidance”. Did not work for me. I will say the ending of a particular character was very sudden, liked that part. Still, found myself not caring for any character.

  13. tombando says :

    *Zodicac-2007 with Jake Gyllenhall, Iron Man, the Hulk, etc. It Never fails–this film just kinda gets under my skin whenever I watch it and keeps me riveted despite being rather long and not having much (if any) action after first 45 minutes or so. I really like this thing. Right thru the Ace Hardware ‘confrontation’ and the Toronto Airport picture IDing. Pretty neato case they put together even if they were wrong? Excellent all around movie.

    *X Files 2008 flick–with Scully and Moulder, Billy Connally and lotsa snow. This one works-OK, Connally is a disgraced child molesting Priest/Psychic, there’s Russki’s running around grabbing women for Frankenstein purposes, Scully and Moulder come in from the Civvie world and try to solve things. I don’t think it’s Great but it’s a passable time filler. Not nearly as good as the better episodes though.

  14. Xiphos0311 says :

    Hulu has adapted High Fidelity and you know what? It doesn’t completely suck, which surprised me because I figured it was going to blow and I was wrong about that. Sure they moved it to hipster Brooklyn NYC instead of Chicago or London. They gender swapped Rob and the fat black lady they got to replace fat Jack Black(his best role outside of School of RocK)isn’t very good but overall its a solid adaptation.

    Zoe Kravitz makes a for a good Rob.They stuck with the conceit of Rob talking to the camera which works. They dropped the immediate girlfriend leaving(in this case a boy friend) crisis for something that happened a year ago. They also kept all the top 5 stuff from the book which was smart since as I remember that was like more then half the novel.

    All in all I would recommended this adaptation it has entertainment value and the music is great. My only real complaint is that its another dick suck show for NYC. Let’s all agree its time is over and move on to somewhere else. i get it that writers all do the NYC LA shuffle but there are other interesting places in the States to set shows and movies. Or do an English version you know like the books. If you haven’t read the book I remember liking it a lot back in the day. I read in college for some sort of English paper so I don’t know how I would like so many decades later.

    • M. Blitz says :

      RIP NYC!

      What i would give to visit it the way it was when i first went, so many years ago. Ah well…..

      Everything I love is over. But it’s ok. I guess.

      • Xiphos0311 says :

        I remember NYC in the later 70’s when me and my Mom wandered in. It was totally nuts. The new Disney/rich people play ground is quite boring.

      • M. Blitz says :

        I’m so mad I wasnt a teenager/young adult in the 70s. It’s lame to think like that, but still, if only.

      • Xiphos0311 says :

        I was like 8 or 9 when we went to NYC. It was a mind blowing experience.

        The Disneyfied NYC doesn’t really lend itself to gritty film making any more.

    • Continentalop says :

      I can’t even imagine Daredevil, Power Man, Iron Fist, Punisher, and Moon Knight in modern NYC. Why even keep making movies & shows set there?

  15. Just Pillow Talk says :

    Ford vs Ferrari – I enjoyed this film, Bale and Damon were good together. I think they moved the story along well enough, spending enough time on the building/testing of the cars, the political backdrop of the whole process, and the race itself. It seemed relatively accurate, but I did not read in depth on the whole backstory.

    The Expanse – more than halfway through season 2, I like this show a lot. Maybe it’s because i haven’t watched a semi scifi show in forever, but i am liking the conflicts between factions, the ugliness of space travel, living, etc. I did not expect to get hooked on this.

    • M. Blitz says :

      The Expanse is great! Funny that the worst thing about it is the main dude. But the other characters more than make up for his shortcomings.

      • Just Pillow Talk says :

        While I agree on the lead, he is filling a morale compass role for the other actors to react off of. At least that is how I look at it.

      • M. Blitz says :

        Just you wait lol Holden becomes annoying as fuck as it goes along. But you will have some very badass new characters on the way too.

      • Just Pillow Talk says :

        Thomas Jane was great..a shame.

      • M. Blitz says :

        Really really enjoyed Thomas Jane. Classic type character with a nice idiosyncratic style. Very well done.

        I had actually forgotten when I referred to Holden as “the main dude” that when I first started watching, i prob would have thought of Thomas Jane as the lead.

        Must tread carefully and not spoil anything! I still need to watch the latest season.

    • Xiphos0311 says :

      I agree with Blitz The Expanse is an excellent watch.

      Ford v Ferrari I really like that movie. It was the second movie I saw saw last year, the first being Once Upon a Time In Hollywood. Both were excellent period pieces with great writing and acting.

      • Continentalop says :

        F v F was like the kind of quality entertainment you used to get from Hollywood from the 1960s up until the early 2000s. I could totally imagine a late 60s/early 70s version starring Paul Newman or Steve McQueen and Terrance Stamp.

      • Xiphos0311 says :

        Hey Conti how are you doing?

        yeah i agree F v F was like OUATIH are throw backs to the days when Hollywood made good movies.

      • Just Pillow Talk says :

        Haven’t seen once upon a time…

      • Xiphos0311 says :

        Pillow you are well acquainted with my feelings about Cokey so I can say this with zero bias, OUATINH is an Excellent wel made movie and except for the trolling with the feet there is very little to almost no of the normal Cokey movie making shittyness.

      • M. Blitz says :

        A late 60s Terence Stamp omg, if only. May have to put on Modesty Blaise tonight and bask in that psychotic beauty for a bit.

  16. tombando says :

    Well–I Did get Simon and Simon Season 2 (having had just 10 eps from it before) for what it’s worth….

  17. tombando says :

    *Welcome to Marwen-2018. Okay THAT was a strange one. Steve Carrell, Diane Kruger, Leslie Mann etc. This was directed by BOB ZEMECKIS–who’s blonde bombshell wife is cast as a porn actress in here. I donno where to begin with this movie. Carrell is a famous artist in ‘Upstate NY’ who gets almost beat to death by some skinhead types in a bar for wearing high heels. He can’t remember anything afterwards, takes up photography. He lives in a trailer and has a real active fantasy life involving WW2 in Belgium, a quintet of gun toting Barbies(all based on women he knows), and a bunch of cartoony evil Nazi dolls. The CGI and etc from all THAT–well it works fine. It’s like they crossed Small Soldiers with whatever that Snyder flick was with the killer chicks and then tried to staple Charlie onto it. Does that make any sense?! Anyways, he finds love, he has to struggle into court and face the guys who almost killed him, and he has to get off the meds which are holding him back(Spoiler!).

    THe cast tries hard and is likable, but–it’s a Really schizo flick. I can see why it tanked. I kinda liked it–but wow. This was a mess. You might enjoy it but be ready for some real jarring changes in tone etc. along the way.

  18. ThereWolf says :

    Bought a new TV just after New Year. It’s one of those new-fangled 4k things. Can’t decide whether I like it or not. The picture’s gonna take some getting used to; it doesn’t look cinematic, d’yer know what I mean? Films look like television, dunno how else to describe it. There’s a weird ‘motion blur’ effect going on too, never had that on the plasma telly. Messed about in ‘settings’ but I can’t smooth it out. Apparently it’s a common LED thing? Too distracting, man.

    Only got a handful of 4k movies so far; I can see the jump in picture quality but can’t say I’ve been totally blown away. It’s the two older films I got that proper impressed me; ‘Black Hawk Down’ is astonishing. I only had the DVD and the 4k came with a standard blu-ray so I was able to do a step-up comparison. The image improvement over blu-ray is very impressive. A lot of film grain though, can see that bugging some folk.

    Older still, the 4k picture for ‘2001 Space Odyssey’… I gather they used the 70mm print for the transfer and it looks phenomenal, proper ‘wow’ moment. Have yet to watch this in full. Maybe 4k has arrived to deliver me from my current cinema apathy! They’re gonna need to drop the price of discs though…

    • M. Blitz says :

      Ooooh that is extremely annoying. What kind of tv is it? They sometimes hide the appropriate settings to tweak behind weird and/or counterintuitive names and/or modes. Is there a BFI mode? The effect you’re describing is the visual equivalent of nails on a chalkboard to me. Don’t give up, keep tweaking!

      Have always wanted to see 2001 in 70 mm.

      • ThereWolf says :

        The Blitz!

        Yeh, it’s a Panasonic, 65-inch. Not an up-to-date model, sale item and I gather already superseded by newer sets but I couldn’t stretch the budget to bells and whistles. Reviews didn’t highlight any issues; solid TV by all accounts. There was no in-depth manual with it so no explanation of settings. Youtube has a lot of individual videos for best TV set-ups but there isn’t one for mine so I’ve been mixing and matching settings, but no joy. There’s something called ‘motion optimiser’ on the telly, this was set to ‘medium’ out of the box. Googling doesn’t give me an answer on what this is, tried it on ‘high’ and ‘low’ but can’t see any difference; no idea what this setting does. I’m presuming it’s to do with what I’m on about but the home cinema sites use different phrases around the word ‘motion’, weird that ‘motion optimiser’ never comes up. I’m gonna set it to ‘low’ for now.

        Then my sister and her fella come round and they’re going ‘wow, what a great picture’ and I reply with ‘yeh, except for the motion blur’… Their response? ‘Oh, didn’t notice it.’ Wha-aaaat!

    • Xiphos0311 says :

      Look you all hoity toity with the big time TV set wolf.

    • Just Pillow Talk says :

      Wolf, your tv doesn’t have any of these?

      Intelligent Frame Creation, Black Frame Insertion, Clear Motion…maybe those are only on the newer versions.

      From what I read, yeah, keeping it on low is your best option.

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