Casper in a GIANT ROBOT SUIT v ANGRY SPACE BUGS!!! Starship Troopers 3: Marauder

There was always inevitably going to be a sequel to Starship Troopers. However, the first attempt at it, Hero of the Federation, was a steaming load of rubbish. So time passed, and the memory of the awesomeness of Starship Troopers began to fade. Yet, people didn’t lose faith, we hoped that one day there would be another stab at Heinlen’s novel and it would contain the big robot suits that everyone familiar with the story always hoped for. Then in 2009 Edward Neumeier, writer of the original, managed to scrape together the cash, offered Casper payment and finally managed to bring Jonny Rico back to the world in his directorial debut for more sharp satire, bug stomping awesomeness and inexplicable random acts of nudity. Starship Troopers 3 can never live up to the original, because that’s inconceivable, but what it does manage to be is a pretty damned entertaining film in its own right.

Set years after the events of Starship Troopers 1, and wisely pretending that Starship Troopers 2 doesn’t exist, Marauder opens with the now trademark internet news feed. While this doesn’t feel anywhere near as fresh as Verhoeven’s original, it does at least introduce us to salient plot points (religion, problems in the colony & the protest movement, and the planet cracking bomb) but more importantly this time out we get the film plays its trump card: the Singing Sky Marshall. Sky Marshall Anoke is the Federation’s biggest celebrity, and despite being a psychic military general is loved by the people. He’s had a string of hits, the best one of which is the stupendous “A good day to die”. He is, actually, a work of absolute genius and almost makes the film worthwhile single-handedly.

Would you buy a CD from this man?

Then the film starts properly, Rico is serving in the outer colonies, his best friend Dix Hauser (Boris Kodjoe) and fiancée Lola (Jolene Blalock) turn up with Anoke (Stephen Hogan). Next thing you know, it’s bug central and the outpost is effectively lost. Rico is arrested for treason by Dix (with friends like this) while Lola tries to keep a disparate band of survivors alive on a seemingly deserted planet. Eventually, the truth comes out (I won’t spoil it), and Rico dons GIANT ROBOT ARMOUR to go and kick some bug ass and save Lola from the mega brain bug.

Comparisons with the original are bound to happen here, and it’s obvious that they didn’t have anywhere near a comparative budget. However, necessity is the mother of invention, so we’re introduced to Scorpion bugs that fire blue plasma, and little woodlouse type things that explode. Both of these are clearly cheaper options, but I do miss the giant flying bugs and those big fuckers that fire plasma into space.

This is where the human fleet hangs out, drinks a few beers, and plots insecticide on a grand scale. Need Giant Robots though.

Casper, on the other hand, is on great form here. He’s born to play Rico, and this version is a slightly older, wiser, harder man than the naive lad from the original. He’s still clearly in shape, and does still fit the mobile infantry role, but this is a much more one-dimensional character than before. Nevertheless, in a Starship Troopers film, do you honestly want anyone else not called Ironside in exchanges like this one:

Sgt. Kirby: You know what I think, Sir?
Johnny Rico: What’s that, Sergeant?
Sgt. Kirby: I think it’s a good day to die, Sir!
Johnny Rico: Outstanding!

Or uttering ridiculously over the top lines such as “Good. Give us a hand. Pick up that arm and find out who it belongs to.” All his lines are delivered with a knowing twinkle in his eye, and it’s clear that Rico can still cut it as a bug-squashing dude. The rest of the support such as Blalock, Hogan, and Kodjoe are acceptable, and some such as Amanda Donohoe’s Enola Phid are better than this, but there is one character in the film that nearly sinks the whole affair: Marnette Patterson’s Holly Little.

Lola totalled the Spaceship. Women drivers, eh?

Holly Little is incredibly annoying. She’s caught religion, for some reason, and is shrill, irritating and strident. Every exchange where she witters on about blasphemy is a knife to my soul. This shit, frankly has no business being anywhere near a Starship Troopers film. The other problem is that it’s too heavy handed- and Blalock as the voice of sanity has to point out the inherent contradictions in any organised religion. It quickly becomes tiresome, although Blalock does give it her best. A poor execution of a misguided concept, and not one redeemed by the closing line “Across the federation, federation experts agree that: A: God exists, B: He’s on our side, C: He wants us to win.” Although that isn’t a bad effort.

Casper really rued the day he hired David Carradine as an acting consultant

Nevertheless, Starship Troopers 3 is a good, fun, gung-ho little film. It’s not a patch on the original, but there are more than enough chuckles to be had here. Rico gets some cracking lines, and the final scene with the Marauders contains enough carnage to satisfy even the most critical soul. At the end of the day, this is a decent enough effort at replicating the magic of Verhoeven’s original, and while not entirely successful, I’m never going to throw hate grenades at a film that contains the exchange:

Johnny Rico: Situation, lieutenant.
Link Manion: Totally, ominously fucked up, sir.

There are lots of these exchanges in the film, and Casper seems to fucking love them. Although to be fair, they usually are the best lines around. This kind of testosterone driven machismo is an essential part of the Starship Troopers charm, and I really like that it made it into this film unscathed.

Overall, Starship Troopers 3: Marauder can hold its head up high. It’s a fine effort at continuing the universe that’s loads of laughs, contains loads of ass-kickery and most-importantly, some damned good jokes. I laugh with it with every viewing, and the very concept of the singing Sky Marshall almost made me consider giving it 4 Mobile Infantry Caspers as a matter of general principle. However, it isn’t good enough for that, and the forced religion stuff from Holly is inordinately aggravating, so I’m giving it two and a half MI Caspers out of 4. A very, very good effort to produce big Science Fiction with a tiny budget of only $10m.

Bring on part 4, because for the Mobile Infantry every day is a good day to die.

Now let’s go crack a fucking planet.

See you on the bounce, troopers.

Jarv.

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97 responses to “Casper in a GIANT ROBOT SUIT v ANGRY SPACE BUGS!!! Starship Troopers 3: Marauder”

  1. Jarv says :

    I’ve just published this, because I’ve been writing it for two days, and I was growing to hate the sight of it.

    Sorry.

  2. just pillow talk says :

    Yeah, this one would have been a proper sequel as opposed the one that bears the #2 in its name.

    • Jarv says :

      Number 2 is a horror movie as well. It’s tonally all over the place, the concept is terrible and it’s just a bad film.

      It lacks the humour and playfulness of Starship Troopers.

      Oh, and fuck ANYONE that thinks ST is a guilty pleasure

  3. Bartleby says :

    Good review..You know, I somehow missed seeing this, and I do believe it’s on netflix. Im a fan of the original and thought the sequel was one of the worst follow-ups ever made. It’s like they let an AICNTBer write and direct it.

    Singing Sky Marshall sounds brilliant. I didnt think this would be worth a crap. I recall HOD saying it was fun though.

  4. Bartleby says :

    also, a fundamentally intriguing question: Which movie would you rather let your twelve year old watch? ST1 or Transformers?

    • Jarv says :

      Er…

      Crap Parenting alert here:

      Starship Troopers.

      Definitely check this out, Jonah, it’s a blast.

      • Bartleby says :

        See, I don’t think it’s crap to let (or better, watch) Starship Troopers with your 12 year old. It introduces satire, and is actually thoughtful in it’s ‘dumbness’, while Transformers is everything that ST inherently mocks. And seriously, co-ed showers less embarrassing discussion than mom dropping in to see how the masturbating is going.

        Man, gonna watch this and the original back to back on vacation.

        Good one Jarv. And the review is just fine.

        Also, Heinlein was a pretty amusing fella.

      • Jarv says :

        I did that recently. It’s a splendid double bill that one.

      • Droid says :

        Transformers. I highly doubt a 12 year old would appreciate ST beyond the action. He/she certainly wouldn’t get the satire. I know this because I saw Robocop when I was 13 and that’s exactly what happened. Man, I saw some violent movies when I was young.

        Not great parenting either way to be honest.

      • Bartleby says :

        also, crap parenting update: I recall taking my younger sister–she was 12 at the time–to ST back in 97 and at that moment when the airforce drop the bomb, and the dust clears and there’s dead bugs…you hear a little five year old voice from somewhere in the theater exclaim ‘Damn!’

      • Droid says :

        mom dropping in to see how the masturbating is going

        C’mon now, Jonah. This is way off the mark. Very unlike you just to make stuff up to back up your point.

      • Jarv says :

        If we think about it in all honesty, I’d be happier with ST than TF because it’s fundamentally a fucking better film, even though most of what makes it good will pass by a kid. I think I was younger than that when I saw Robocop and missed the point completely.

        That’s not really a good argument to base essential parenting decisions on.

      • Bartleby says :

        See, I don’t know..I was a different kid at 12. 12 would be, let’s see… 91 for me. Goodfellas, T2, etc…saw all that. It didnt’ really scar me, and I think it created, for me at least, a better back and forth with my parents over what I was watching/reading/etc, that it felt a bit healthier. I had already read a good bit by 12. I guess it depends on the kid.

        As a well-read 12 year old my sister got the obvious comment on the Nazi uniforms and the ‘citizens’ and the correlations to old western movies and what hot. It’s all down to where your kid is at.

        Even so, if it’s down to just action, ST1 is still more thrilling and entetaining than TF1.

      • Toadkillerdog says :

        Good review jarvik, I shall put this on the must see list – I actually forgot it existed and I truly love the original. The sequel is unmitigated crap.

        I think kids can pick up on satire, I know i could, it simply takes exposing them to it an explaining what it is the first time they see it.
        Context is everything.

      • Jarv says :

        Cheers TKD.

        It probably depends on the kid, but the Iraq references etc would completely fly over a kid’s head. The Why we fight Map for example.

      • Droid says :

        What isn’t?

        We’ve had this discussion before about TF and like I said then, I think it’s a good movie for 12 year olds.

        ST is unquestionably a much better film, but you and I know that kids don’t appreciate good films until they become surly, sarcastic little cunts. The mid-teens phase where you develop a “fuck you” attitude. That’s when I saw ST and fucking loved it. And most of all, I got it.

      • Jarv says :

        Mine.

        I’d prefer ST, because it’s a better film and I detest TF.

      • Jarv says :

        Also, while I’d find it less embarrassing to explain mixed showers to a 12 year old than wank gags, at the end of the day, ST is a film for older teens- it may be bright and shiny and everything, but really, it isn’t appropriate.

      • Jarv says :

        Oh and I don’t think either film is scarring.

      • Droid says :

        I think there’s a fundamental difference between recognising that something is intended to be satirical, and understanding the intent of satire.

        As a 12 year old I could do the former, but I don’t think the latter.

      • Bartleby says :

        I think it all depends honestly, on what you have read. I do believe that you possess the developmental ability to understand and process satire at 12, but usually you haven’t been afforded the exposure or ability to do so. What you usually lack, particularly in the case of ST’s satire, is the scope and context (afforded you by history and reading, exposure to ideas, etc) to fully ‘get’ it.

        I was probably being purposefully edgy with the 12 age–13-15 makes a bit more sense–but I see something like ST1 as a gateway to understanding things like satire. I’d rather give my kid something (provided it isnt actually detrmental to their growth) that they might struggle with or not get all of, if it promotes thought. The problem with the TF, ‘its for twelve year olds’ is that it uses that as an excuse to be dumber than it needs to be.

      • Droid says :

        Sure, but you guys are approaching this from the point of view of an adult. A movie like TF, or Beastmaster, or Commando (a personal fav of mine as a youngster) are dumb as shit, and all feature largely inappropriate content for a kid of that age. But they also appeal to that age group.

        You do nothing but show your kid films that might “challenge” them, or that are just beyond their grasp, you’re going to put a kid off film. Kids like stupid movies. Those kids grow up and give those stupid movies 3 1/2 Changs out of a possible four!!! This is just a fact, and I bet in 20 years some guy will watch TF and look back with nostalgia at how much he loved it.

      • Bartleby says :

        I don’t mean just ‘challenging’ films. I’m not trying to crap on Transformers 1 particularly Droid. Im thinking more of the whole trilogy now, of which the first is the least guilty and the best (in terms of being a movie).

        My thing is that ST1 and TF are actually throwing in about the same amount of similar content and intent. I think ST1 can be enjoyed as dumbhouse–because it essentially is–but it has something else too. That’s what Im getting at. As far as challenging goes, Babe: Pig in the City is darker and more challenging than Transformers.

        thin

        –honestly, if you consider the language in the transformers movies and take into account the slang sex and racist terms, Im far happier letting an early teen hear the sparser military uses of ‘f***’ and ‘GD it’ then alot of what ended up in TF2.

        And although it might seem false, I do remember much of what I saw (and thought about what I saw) as a 12 yr old. You are right about what attracts kids of that age, and honestly most overly violent films can be offputting to kids of that age. Verhoeven’s own Total Recall was not a movie I got into at 11 or 12 because it just felt too intense. Strangely, at 12, I think my favorite movies at the time were Aliens, Last of the Mohicans, and Blade Runner (which seemed far more action packed than it actually was).

      • Droid says :

        I loved Total Recall. But then I loved every Arnie movie I saw. I couldn’t get enough.

    • Bartleby says :

      Ok, point is, whether you like it don’t, Transformers is a stupid film. You know the scene i mean, and I could draw it out and explain it (she comes in and asks about his happy time and what not), but what I’m saying is, the short sweet sight of Meyer’s boobies in the shower–and later– isn’t necessarily worse than the objectifcation of Fox and the inappropriate sexuality in TF1.

      I come down like Jarv does on one being a better movie, but beyond that, I guess what I really mean is that ST1 is a R rated movie that sometimes feels like it was made for a youngish audience (maybe older than 122 but still) and TF1, which should be for a much younger audience, feels like its trying to jam R rated stuff into a movie that isn’t smart enough to deal with it appropriately, and then edits it up to get a PG-13. Maybe the first is less guilty than the follow-ups, but you know what Im getting at.

      • Droid says :

        the short sweet sight of Meyer’s boobies in the shower–and later

        If those were the first pair of boobs I ever saw, I’d really question what all the fuss was about.

      • Jarv says :

        To be fair, though, there is a wide variety on display in that shower.

      • Droid says :

        Nothing memorable though.

      • Jarv says :

        A very mature 12 year old would be fine with both. A very immature 14 year old would not.

        There’s no real hard and fast age range for these things. However, having said that, I’d feel fairly confident on every 15 year old on the planet being fine with ST, particularly given that new Conan was a 15.

        I am still struggling to see why it wasn’t an 18.

      • Bartleby says :

        Conan is a hard R in content, at least according to U.S. rating standards. I’d say it’s not appropriate for the same demographic we were just discussing, although it’s still aimed at them in some ways.

      • Jarv says :

        By the BBFC’s usual standards, then Conan is an 18.

        Starship Troopers is an 18.

        The presence of Boob, shagging, and how much fucking violence would almost guarantee it. I actually think it’s gorier and more violent than ST, which is all well and good because it’s a barbarian film.

      • Jarv says :

        And no, it absolutely is not appropriate for the demographic being discussed. However, Arnie’s Conan may be.

      • Bartleby says :

        new Conan is far more violent than ST and more mean spirited. There’s some graphic violence in ST (and really in Robocop, which Im surprised at how bad it is for the time period) but in Conan it’s a) non-stop and b) some of it is dementedly mean-spirited. The knuckles in the nasal cavity come to mind.

      • Droid says :

        I watched the DC of Robocop recently, and while it’s incredibly violent, it’s not as bad as I remembered. It’s horrendous in fits and starts, but it’s like a quick shock. It isn’t sustained mean-spirited, graphic violence. I don’t think it’s appropriate for kids, but a 15 year old would, and should, love it.

        Same goes for Total Recall.

      • Jarv says :

        I don’t think new Conan is more mean spirited for the most part.

        There are two very obvious exceptions though: Perlman’s death and where Conan gets even with the fat guy,as you noted with “The knuckles in the nasal cavity”.

        The rest of it is daft, albeit bloody, swordfighting.

      • Jarv says :

        I saw Robocop very, very young and it didn’t scar me at all. Fucking Aliens did though.

      • Droid says :

        I watched Aliens through my fingers when I was 11.

      • Jarv says :

        Looking at Aliens now, it’s still violent as all fuck. Clear 15-18 year old demographic.

        By the way, I think the 18 rating is a ludicrous idea- I saw nothing at 18 that I wasn’t fine with at 15/16, but if you are going to pretend that some films are only suitable for adults, then New Conan is nailed on.

      • Droid says :

        Yeah the review I watched at RLM commented on that nasal cavity poking. They said it was hilarious.

      • Jarv says :

        It’s ridiculous, but they’re wrong. It’s in the context of torture, and it is mean spirited.

        Luckily the torture isn’t followed through with.

      • Jarv says :

        Talking about which, our highest search is for Adrienne Barbeau in Swamp Thing.

        Now that’s a film I’d be comfortable letting a 12 year old see, and it’s got loads of boob.

      • Droid says :

        I also remember watching The Keep on some midnight showing on tv when I was about 8 or 9 (I snuck out after everyone went to bed to watch tv) and it scared the shit out of me.

        Years later when I watched it again? Not so much.

      • Bartleby says :

        bang on about The Keep. I saw that young–unfortunately not at 7 or 8 but probably like 5 or 6 (not a good idea) and it seemed endlessly terrifying. Part of it is that i never made it to the end to see the monster–just left with that image of the dead headless nazi body being returned from the void.

        Shock a few years later (probably at 9) when I saw it in full and noticed that the main villain looks suspiciously like the love child of swamp thing and ferrigno’s Hulk.

      • Bartleby says :

        Jarv, did you ever see Return of Swamp Thing? perfect movie for a 12 year old, or younger. That’s loads of fun but dumb as hell.

      • Jarv says :

        No, for some reason I’ve never seen it. I’ll get to it soon.

  5. Bartleby says :

    Ratings are weird here anyway, especially in the 90s. Oddest R I can recall is Army of Darkness. Can someone please tell me how any cut of the film–especially the cut in theaters–wasn’t rated PG-13? I’d say that’s a pretty appropriate movie for 12 to 13 yr olds.

  6. Bartleby says :

    also, for my scifi series, which Ill start putting up today, I just came across a great 12 year-old sci-fi movie. The Eliminators. Anyone see that? It has mandroids, ninjas, cavemen, river pirates, a time machine and Denise Crosby. Yep, it’s a Charles Band film.

    • Jarv says :

      Wow. That sounds awesome. I put up those lists for you the other day.

      What is Hunter Prey, by the way?

      • Bartleby says :

        Hunter Prey is a low budget scifi about bounty hunters (that look ripped off Boba Fett to be honest) chasing an alien fugitive on a barren planet. It’s watchable, but nothing magnificent. JPT, I think, mentioned it a few months back and revealed the twist–which was pretty obvious, honestly.

        It’s ok, but not necessarily going out of your way for. It’s no ink.

        I’ve watched 3 movies for the series. Cargo, Beyond the Black Rainbow, and Eliminators. Cargo was a pleasant surprise (I had only seen the first hour or so, and finally picked it up and finished it when I saw it on that list you sent), Black Rainbow is shit, and Eliminators is stupid as crap but surprisingly fun.

      • Droid says :

        You should do Death Machine. Norringtons first movie.

      • Jarv says :

        That’s a good idea

      • Bartleby says :

        Death Machine? I literally just saw that sitting at a drug store for 3 dollars. Isn’t Dourif or somebody in it? Is it good, or a trap by Droid?

      • Jarv says :

        Fuck knows.

        It’s Norrington, and he’s on 50/50 with us (unless you’re one of the nutters that likes LXG).

      • koutchboom says :

        I’ve had it for forever I think I’ve seen it. It wasn’t the movie I was looking for.

        I’ve been trying to find forever this movie that ends with some slow mo shot of people running out of a building and some robot screaming inside of it as it blows up. And it wasn’t that other movie with Lemmy.

      • Droid says :

        It’s Dourif as the mad scientist. I saw it when it first came out on VHS. 94 or 95 I think. It’s a low budget Alien rip off, but I remember thinking it was pretty good. I haven’t seen it since though.

      • Bartleby says :

        well, no I didn’t like LXG, but he did something with sean bean that wasn’t terrible if I recall, so he’s slightly higher than 5050. Has he ever done anything after LXG?

        I’ll add it. Death Machine. Sounds good. I’ve added Zone Troopers as well. All I remember of that one was tim thomerson decking Hitler, so it’s on the list.

      • Bartleby says :

        er, not sean bean, jason isaacs, my mistake.

      • Jarv says :

        Christ. LXG finished his career.

        He made the monster in Split Second! I wonder how long that took? I bet about 10 minutes.

      • Jarv says :

        Right.

        Outta here.

        I may have something tomorrow, maybe not. Depends.

      • Bartleby says :

        off to Bar Harbor myself. enjoy your weekends Jarv and Droid.

        Have the laptop so will try to finally get the site updated. Been a pisser, this summer.

      • Droid says :

        Ciao to you both.

  7. Droid says :

    Thank titty fucking christ it’s friday.

  8. koutchboom says :

    Ohhhh jeez you guys are bitching about seeing R rated films as child as bad parenting. Grow up. Are you going to be the parents that now monitor everything your kids watch? Even though you saw R rated films all the time? FAWK its a stupid argument, just because you see violence doesn’t all of the sudden make you some violent retard. Fuck you either have those psychopathic abilities or you don’t. I bet if there was more of an in depth look into it most serial killers weirdos probably didn’t watch shit as a kid.

    Kids who would freak out over seeing an R rated film as a kid were just weird to me. I can’t recall a time when my parents ever censored anything I saw. I mean it wasn’t like they sat me down and forced me to watch Cannibal Holocaust, but my dad did let me rent Pink Flamingos when I was in 8th or 9th grade. And they took me to R rated films all the time before i was 10.

    • Toadkillerdog says :

      Whoa Koutch, are you serious about this quote “my dad did let me rent Pink Flamingos when I was in 8th or 9th grade”

      Was he aware of the content of PF or just that it was an unrated or even X rated movie?

      Lets see, i was 13 in the eighth grade. No way on Gods green earth would my parents have allowed me to see that.

      Yeah, I was allowed to watch R rated movies that dealt with violence and some nudity, but PF?

      I make no comment on your fathers parenting skills other than to say, it was extremely liberal- and it explains a lot

      • koutchboom says :

        Well he was a military ranking of an 06 at the time they tend to be very liberal. Yeah he knew what it was, he’d seen it and he knew I wasn’t an idiot. Though he did get pissed when I stayed awake and watched ALLLLL of Seven Years in Tibet when he had told me to fast forward through most of it.

      • koutchboom says :

        And it may have been 9th grade? It was one or the other. He also had his buddy at work download me an illegal copy of Orgasmo.

      • koutchboom says :

        Man now I’m trying to remember what I saw first Orgasmo/South Park/Baseketball. They were all pretty close to each other.

      • koutchboom says :

        Hrmmm I guess I bought South Park copys some other way, I thought I had ordered them through Amazon, but my first Amazon order was in 99.

      • Toadkillerdog says :

        I did not see PF until I was in my 20’s.
        Different strokes i guess

      • koutchboom says :

        Wasn’t my first Waters film either. I saw Serial Mom maybe in theaters, but def on VHS. And saw Pecker as well…..granted those are watered down Waters films. And my mom is from Baltimore and that’s where they met whilst in College which Pink Flamingos may have still been playing at midnight showings then.

      • Jarv says :

        Serial Mom is his best film, and Pecker is shit.

  9. koutchboom says :

    And I was around 13-14 when I saw Starship Troopers and got the satire aspect of it just fine.

  10. just pillow talk says :

    I saw Robocop and Platoon double feature at a drive-in when I was 12.

    Fucking sweet double feature, and I hardly turned out to be a bastard. Hardly at all.

    • koutchboom says :

      Yeah I saw Robocop 1-2 as a kid but I don’t know if it was in theaters or HBO? My parents had HBO and recorded shit off it all the time, I remember having VHS recordings of all three Star Wars and that’s how I saw them. But I didn’t see Terminator 1 till way later, but I saw Terminator 2 in theaters, and Aybess in theaters, but Aliens at home.

      Hehe I do remember my parents not allowing me to watch Aliens 3 because 2 scared me too much when they got it on PPV, but I think they gave in because they heard it wasn’t that good.

    • Jarv says :

      That’s not what your gravatar link says.

  11. Xiphos0311 says :

    Singing Sky Martial, an attempt at MI battle armor(a failing sort of attempt but an attempt none the less) A More mature and experienced Rico and “testosterone driven machismo” dialogue made for a pretty good if slight sequel to the original.

    Someday somebody is going to make a ST movie with drop ships and MI battle armor done balls out hard core.

    • Jarv says :

      I think that’s harsh on the first film, though. That’s a superb movie, and very ballsy.

    • Xiphos0311 says :

      It’s not harsh in the least it’s honest, ST is a good and enjoyable movie but almost all the themes and ideas from the book were ejected from Verhooven’s take on the book. Things like MI battle armor and the drop ships, which would have made excellent visuals, were axed in order to make room to shoe horn in his political screeds, budget issues probably played a part as well. In the case of the armor it’s what made MI the MI. In ST the MI wasn’t MI it was a bunch of second rate actors unconvincingly strolling around the California desert without any MI armor(or some version of conventional armor), artillery, heavy weapons or really any way to defeat anybody let alone any large powerful space bugs.

      The main problem ST had is that Verhooven only scanned the first couple of chapters of the book got “bored”(that is his words, it also “depressed” him) and made up his own story which was the probably the plan all along. I think if somebody makes a movie that has ideas and visuals closer to the book it would be a kick ass movie in a different way, sort of an inverse of Alien and Aliens. Of course then they will make the new movie Pg-13 and under cut my entire point and all the nerds will bitch and moan that the remake missed the point of Verhooven’s movie.

      • Jarv says :

        When I said harsh I meant to imply that the original ST had no nuts was harsh.

        It may not be Heinlen’s but that film had balls aplenty.

      • Xiphos0311 says :

        yeah true it had some balls but it could have had mighty balls if they put in the battle armor.

      • Jarv says :

        Particularly if you compare it to summer films now. FFS, it contains gratuitous tits and Doogie Hauser in fetish gear.

        No blockbuster would do that now. And for a fact if Verhoeven had read that far, the armor would have made it too. Lazy bugger.

        Mind you, then we wouldn’t have had singing Sky Marshall

      • Xiphos0311 says :

        Yep I agree that’s why I put that PG 13 line in. Any movie made now will be a generic actioner.

        If I remember right the book opens with the armor, Rico nukes a bug nest.

      • Jarv says :

        Ah. Right. Maybe he changed it because he’d already done Robocop?

      • Xiphos0311 says :

        Maybe, but I also think Verhooven had a specific agenda he wanted to carry out and the book wasn’t really needed to achieve his agenda.

      • Jarv says :

        There’s probably some truth to that.

      • Xiphos0311 says :

        All my “complaints” and they really aren’t revolve around wanting to see the drop ships and battle armor on screen. They were cool as hell to read about and were made to be seen on the screen.

      • Jarv says :

        Didn’t the Drop ships make it?

        Also, You know that in about 10 years some marketing tit will come back to it. Ruin it completely mind, but they will have another go.

      • Xiphos0311 says :

        In the movie they had the large ships that Carmen flew and something like an amphibious assault vehicle to off load the infantry on the ground but the books had these cool individual assault vehicles that look like eggs and peeled of layers as it hit the atmosphere and when it landed out stepped a Mobile Infantrymen in battle armor. I thought that would look cool on a big screen.

      • koutchboom says :

        Ohhhh come on Xi be honest, you were just upset they axed the 100 mile nude run back to base boot camp training scene.

      • Droid says :

        This wasn’t a summer film. It came out in November I’m pretty sure.

      • Jarv says :

        This was DTV. Starship troopers itself was summer.

      • Bartleby says :

        Xi is right about the book. I think the bad-assery is ditched because Verhoeven wasn’t meshing with Heinlein’s saber-rattling tendencies in the books. So we have see the MI (initially) like scared kids getting their asses handed to them. That was the reason I was displeased when I first saw ST the movie (And Droid is right, it came out the first weekend in November, 1997–at least here in the states), It wasn’t Heinlein’s novel, and was lacking some of the singularly cool things of the book like the drop ships and battle armor.

        Overtime I’ve come to appreciate it for what it is, which is more satirical. Got Marauder here at the cabin… gonna do ao double feature sometime very soon.

      • Jarv says :

        I know why I’m convinced that it was summer (I’ve just looked it up)- I was in South Africa when I saw it.

        D’oh.

  12. Col. Tigh-Fighter says :

    I’ve seen this 🙂

    The drop in budget is a little noticable! As are the green screens. Still, dyke sargent had a good death, and Casper was nicely shoe horned into it.

    Total crap, but really rather enjoyable. A bit like RE, Jarv 😉

    • Jarv says :

      Hmph.

      Do not dare sully the good name of Starship Troopers by comparing to RE. I shall send the Mobile Infantry after you. Complete with Giant Robot suits.

  13. ThereWolf says :

    Nice one, Jarv.

    I’ve been meaning to see this for months, gotta get on it at some point. I actually thought this had been reviewed on here already. I’ve read about the singing Sky Marshall somewhere…

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