Mini Review Resurrection: Game of Thrones.

 

 

 

 

It’s been a while since any of us have done one of these, so I thought that I’d resurrect an old format for a series that’s pretty much universally loved. I have the following disclaimer to add at the top, though: I neither know nor care about the original series of novels it is based on. So I don’t want to hear one “Waaaaaaah, it’s not like the book, waaaaaah” because I don’t know if it is or not and, more importantly, I couldn’t give a red fuck. 

Where: On my fucking sofa.

What is it then: HBO made the series, and it’s based on a book that I’ve never heard of and don’t care about. It’s a hugely complex fantasy saga about the succession of King Robert in the West and the problems in the North and East- particularly the rise of Danaerys. There are battles, zombies, an entertaining midget and plenty of boob.

Who? It stars the following people in no particular order (amongst): Sean Bean, Lena Headey, Iain Glenn, Mark Addy, Michelle Farley, Emilia Clarke, Aidan Gillen, Nikolaj Coster-Waldau, Peter Dinklage, Charles Dance and “new” Conan Jason Momoa.

 

Worth a watch? I think so. I did all of them in 2 days at the weekend, and after a slightly rocky start (I only made it to episode 4 because of Dinklage’s lascivious, drunken midget) it kicked on and became, well, fairly epic. The acting for the most part is revelatory- I’d never heard of Clarke before this, and she’s really good, Momoa has made me feel fairly happy about him being Conan, and Gillen, Headey, Glenn, Bean and Dance can play this shit in their sleep. The revelations though are Addy as King Robert, who puts the Full Monty lovable chubster behind him, and Dinklage who NEEDS A FUCKING AWARD for his performance here. I don’t care which one, in fact, if we bother with the Golden Changs again this year, then I’m nominating him for one. Stupendous, but helped by the fact that he has both the most complicated character (Danaerys excepted) and the best lines. Plenty of violence and lots of boob (and a bit of minge) also help keep me amused.

Christ, that sounds great! Calm down, there are problems. To begin with, it’s too big. I couldn’t give less of a fuck about John Snow joining the Night Watch, and there are far too many minor characters and pointless storylines that distract from the main thrust of the series. Actually, I think there’s a fairly fucking incredible film to be made here that pares the Stark clan right down and focuses on Danaerys in the east- hers is easily the most interesting story and I’d see a series based solely on what she’s up to. I watched it in one hit, and honestly the lack of focus was at times intensely aggravating. Furthermore, some of the characterisation is borderline cardboard- notably Cersei and Ned Stark himself.

Oh. Putting me right off now. Well, I’m not meaning to. The acting is top-notch for the most part, it’s lots of fun, there are moments of levity to brighten an otherwise painfully dark story (all provided by “the Imp” or Addy) and the final two episodes are fan-fucking-tastic and really a punch to the balls.  Furthermore, the production design is high, the sets are spectacular and it feels properly fucking epic. Which is a very hard trick to pull off.

Well, that’s me interested again. You should be, it’s more than worth a watch.

Final thoughts? A few, this is a polished, shiny, ballsy epic. It’s actually one of the more ambitious series that I’ve ever seen, and Mrs. Jarv would give it a maximum. I’m not going to, because I’m partially sulking that I want more Danaerys/ Kaleesi and less of the crap in the North/ at Court. Nevertheless, the good far outweighs the bad here, and I’d be lying if I said I didn’t recommend it. The final shot is in particular spectacular and really sets it up for the next series.

Rating:

 

I’m, I suspect, being generous here, as I’ve been thinking about it for a while, and there are massive flaws. However, Dinklage is fucking awesome, and it aims high. I’ve been reading about the next few novels, and I think it could improve exponentially here, because the stories separate naturally, and there’s plenty of room to ditch extraneous parts of the novel (it’s crying out for this, actually). This, therefore, means I can ignore all the stuff I’m not interested in and watch the stuff I am. Still, best series that I’ve seen in a while and more than worth a crack.

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63 responses to “Mini Review Resurrection: Game of Thrones.”

  1. Bartleby says :

    Im closer to Ms. Jarvs thinking on this. Yes, there are problems, but this is well beyond what’s ever been on television regarding this kind of high fantasy.

    Dinklage is amazing, and I agree that the Danaerys/ Kaleesi storyline is the most compelling.

    I’ve read the books but think the miniseries improves upon it a good bit.

    • Jarv says :

      I did like it, but I was left feeling a bit hollow- it’s almost like the entire kitchen sink went into this plot. I could have done with far less of certain bits of it.

      Mrs Jarv loved it unreservedly. So goes to show what I know.

      I will say though, that I do applaud the ambition shown here.

      • Bartleby says :

        its hard, it’s the typical fantasy novel problem, everything keeps leading up and up, without the sufficient delivery–held off untilt the end.

        Most times, that end can never live up. Speaking of which, tonight is Potter, the finale.

        I won’t lie–I hope they nailed it. In order to make this pay-off, it has to be the best once since the third.

      • Jarv says :

        It’s unfocused. There’s too many minor characters and the story needs trimming.

        I did like it- just think the next series could be mint.

  2. koutchboom says :

    The first episode bored me and looked like shit so I didn’t continue.

  3. Xiphos0311 says :

    I come down on GoT being okayish, leaning closer to being silly nonsense that seriously needed a few more rewrites. It’s painful to watch because there could have been a great story in it but instead we got Lord of the Rings, Spartacus(Showtime TV Version) and 60’s Sword and sandals goofiness thrown into a blender with with some entirely boring political nonsense. yes I know the politics is central to the story but man was that some badly handled writing.

    SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS

    The Good

    The Dink of course. It’s like he’s in his own league of greatness he outshines everybody. Entirely compelling character to watch, a whip smart devious Machiavellian character that might end up being the secret good guy of the story. complex without being stupidly complex and surprisingly moral. A quick thinking man that even though he got knocked out by his own unreliable troops has the presence of mind to lie to his father and claim to have been injured in combat. The Dink carries this show on his own small shoulders.

    The cinematography was nice.

    The Knight’s Watch parts, in my opinion, were the only time I became invested in the story when the Dink wasn’t on screen. You had a 300 mile long 100 foot tall ice wall that kept the wildings, white walkers, zombies and whatever the hell else is north of the wall out and kept the weak southerners from having to deal with it. The walls were guarded by some quasi Knight Templars/Tuetonic Knights order that gobbles up gutter scrapings to use as warriors. I genuinely liked this part of the story. This in my opinion is where the great storytelling for this series lays.

    Some of the side characters were good, like the dude who threw in with mush face and the Mongolians, The Knight’s Watch recruiter, Boromirs tomboy daughter and the Dinks chosen champion from The Aerie fight.

    The costumes were nice and the set decorators did a good work.

    Mark Addy was in fine form as the drunken disinterested King. I’m pretty sure he wasn’t acting drunk.

    Mayor Carcetti, The eunuch, the Dinks father and a few others did some nice work and inhabited their characters in a believable manner.

    That’s about all I can think of which means I’ll think of more later.

    The Mediocre, which constitutes the bulk of the show for me

    This is the reason I can’t get excited about GoT, this section, because there could have been some greatness in it, instead it was blah boring and uninteresting to me most of the time.

    Here is where Jarv and I differ, The Mongolian Hoard parts, with mush face and Ronan Dax from Stargate Atlantis. I do agree that they should have made a choice between this part or Knight’s Watch but one needed to go until future seasons. I would say it should have been Knight’s Watch, even though I thought it was the best non-Dink section. The Mongols, who didn’t do anything but ride around, are integral to the political story in the first season. Knight’s Watch, which I assume plays a major role in later books, when winter comes, could have been the major focus then. What they should have done was introduce it and just focus a bit on Snow’s training and let it drop until later.

    Also I disagree, respectfully with Jarv, about Mush face’s assent to power. I had a hard time buying into the story where mush faces gets some kissing lessons from a slave and was able to bend Conan to her will. This part needed a lot more development to be believable in my opinion. Barbarians were not particularly noted for listing to the women folk. Then again neither were women much listened to in “civilized” lands either. That’s why most women had to work behind the scenes. I would wager that it would be the same in the lands of the 7 Kingdoms

    Most of the acting was at best minimally acceptable. Lady Stark, most of the Stark kids especially the middle twat daughter, Circie and her brother lover, and most of the red shirts seemed bored stiff and uninterested.

    I’m putting Conan here also. He wasn’t bad he did what they asked, which wasn’t much just glower, but he did it OK and in guy liner. Mostly he just did a less talkative take on his Ronin Dex character from Stargate Atlantis.

    The Bad

    Boromir, I couldn’t buy that he gets a letter from his redheaded twat daughter and two visits from a eunuch and he easily throws his honor under the bus. I feel bad for Sean Bean he’s become the type cast guy for the sandal and swords set. He looked bored as all hell.

    All the Gondor political machinations not involving Carcetti. He was good so was the eunuch.

    I felt sorry for the actors to had to mouth most of that dialogue. Yikes!

    I wasn’t impressed with the nudity. The German porn chick in particular since she was weird looking. Also, by the en I was wishing mush face would keep her clothes on.

    Way to much ripping off of other movies and TV shows, LOTR, Spartacus, tropes from every fantasy book and sword and sandals based entrainment ever produced made an appearance. In fact they rip off a fight move that Ronan Dex used on Stargate Atlantis. It appeared when one of Ronans’ horse bois was fighting the exiled slaver he did the same jump move that future Conan used on Stargate.

    Fucking Draco Malfoy boy king. I disliked that sniveling punk.

    MOTHERFUCKING DRAGONS? I’m out.

    because I was bored I noticed these things

    If you have horse lords in your story shouldn’t you take the time to make sure the actors look comfortable on horseback, like you know they’re horseman from birth? Ronan Dex looked like he was scared under the guy liner. For that matter most of the cast looked uncomfortable on horseback.

    The weapons were some odd choices. why would they chose to arm fighters with Long Swords? they are great for thrusting over the gunwales of a boat but are near useless from horseback and on foot. That scythe looking sword the ersatz Mongols wielded was odd. I have not done the math but I am pretty sure that the design would break the users hand, arm and probably dislocate your shoulder if they tried to decapitate someone from horseback, which I assume was it’s purpose. Plus how would that work as a weapon in close quarter combat?

    The fight choreographer needed to work with the cast more on the fights, the few that there were, did not look that well staged and it looked like the actors weren’t very comfortable with swords.

    How the hell do you make Lena Heady ugly? put her in an awful blond wig and make her look old with poor make up. Leaving her eyebrows dark helped to highlight the awful wig.

    • Jarv says :

      Agree with a lot of that. The big difference is that I can think of females in charge of “barbarian” tribes- Bodaceia being the obvious example. I do agree that it needed fleshing out- this is where I think the flaw is: her rise and return is an epic tale in its own right, but here was too much.

      Could not disagree more about the Night Watch- particularly Snow and Samwise Gamgee. I will grant that it looked fantastic. And I had the same reaction to the zombies that you had to the dragons. I think both are another example of over-egging the pudding.

      I find Mush face attractive, so didn’t mind her nudity and whatnot.

      Totally agree re ripping off/ the kid king and particularly Boromir’s end.

      From what I understand, though it fractures into about 9 stories from here on in. Danaerys should have been a series without the stuff in the west- it’s an either or situation.

      • Xiphos0311 says :

        We’ll have to agree to disagree about Knight’s Watch v. Dotharki Hoard.

        The other major problem I had with the Mongols is that they did nothing but ride around, nothing at all. I wanted some cool horseback raider action since I’m a big fan of horse nomads being a rider myself. I didn’t get any and I felt cheated.

        I also agree about the Samwise Gamgee (who’s name was Samwell right? I just called him fat bitch) but I blame that on Martin being an uber hack rip off artist that threw every fantasy cliche he could mine/steal into the book.

        When I wrote that part about Mush face I knew you were going to break out Boudicca. She is an exception and not the rule since the Celts were one of the very few “barbarian” groups that didn’t particularly crap on women.

      • Jarv says :

        I know the Iceni weren’t usual, but it isn’t outside plausibility- I liked how she developed, and think her story was the part that felt “epic”. Which the politics certainly did NOT.

        To be fair to the wall storyline, it’s also potentially fairly epic.

        Basically- I don’t think we’re that far apart, but I’m more enthusiastic about what worked than you are.

        One thing, though, the breast feeding 5 year old was gross, unnecessary, shrill and irritating.

      • Xiphos0311 says :

        The breastfeeding! oh man that made me throw up in mouth a little when I saw that. Plus the kid was a bigger brat then King Malfoy is.

        Yeah i don’t think we are far apart either and it’s really a minor disagreement. I am willing to concede that a story line about a few warriors out on their own on the frontier saving the rest of the world appeals to me on a certain level.

        I’m somewhat surprised I didn’t like the show more. I’m partial to swords and I’m pretty generous towards fantasy movies.I think you will agree that the show needed a lot of editing.

      • Jarv says :

        Completely.

        Personally, I think Danaerys should have been done in more depth as a mini series- game of thrones: the east or something. I would gladly have watched it and it would improve and focus the main story which is about the Starks.

        It probably would also work to shift the wall to its own series. Imagine this were 3 mini series, each 6 episodes long.

        Instant improvement, and I could ignore the court more.

      • Jarv says :

        Which brings me on to the next sequels- the novels had to be split along these lines.

        Genuinely curious as to how they’ll do it.

      • Xiphos0311 says :

        I think you’re right, if they shifted each storyline into it’s own mini-series then I think they would have been better stories. The final season you bring them all together in an epic blow out.

      • Jarv says :

        It strikes me that each of them deals with a fairly epic war- war between the Houses for succession, the zombie horde in the north and the unification of the tribes under the exiled queen before invasion.

        Each of these is big enough in its own right to support a series. Fuck knows how it will play with the two youngest Stark kids now. Potentially there are going to be 7 major storylines.

        I think they’ll struggle to reconcile it and some surreptitious pruning (youngest Stark daughter leaping to mind) would help it to be more coherent.

      • Xiphos0311 says :

        I got a feeling that with the youngest Stark kid they will be changing her storyline significantly from the book. I just looked her up and her story goes completely haywire and off the rails. I have a feeling she’s going to end up with Snow on the Wall. the twat Stark will get what’s coming to her from Malfoy. I guess she did earn a small amount of redemption for going against the family by trying to take out the boy king.

    • Jarv says :

      Also re Conan:

      Considering he wasn’t in English and was wearing eyeliner, I thought he was really good- a big, intimidating presence and taking the sword in his shoulder before ripping that guy’s tongue out was a bit of excellent barbarian hero nonsense.

      I can’t say about the weapons, but to be fair to GoT Glenn took the guy that tried to use on in hand to hand down without breaking sweat which suggests that everyone knew they weren’t good for that.

      • Xiphos0311 says :

        I agree, Conan did what he was supposed to do. I don’t particularly have a bone to pick with him. He did his job. I like the actor he did great job on Stargate Atlantis taking a one note character and imbuing it with some nobility and depth. I wasn’t bent by his being cast as Conan since I had other problems mostly with the story and some concerns over the director.

        Glenn’s breast plate saved him from a disemboweling stroke, which come to think of it, is another use for that silly blade. I take my Hoard blade comment back that scythe would be useful as a disemboweling weapon.

  4. ThereWolf says :

    Ah, telly stuff… (Wolf looks a bit sheepish…) Well, I might have a go at some point, can’t promise. Considering all the other series I’m supposed to be catching up on/ giving a go to are stuck in a permanent holding pattern round these here parts…

  5. redfishybluefishy says :

    Yes, yes, I know you don’t care about the books, Jarv, but I love them and I think they’ve done a remarkable job trying to translate such a dense and layered world to television.

    The Game of Thrones books do have whispers of LotR, but it really does go off into it’s own path which is somewhere between chess and a game of risk, but with a whole slew of fascinating and complex characters.

    I also love the Dinklage! He’s amazing and it doesn’t hurt that his character is really the most interesting and clever; Tyrion is pure genius and Peter Dinklage plays him to perfection. If you have not seen him in The Station Agent, I highly recommend it.

    I’m kinda with Xippy in that I thought the Daenerys/Khalesi part didn’t go so well, but it is a difficult role to convey. In the book she is 13 years old and just starting to grow up and come into her own. The khalasar are a bit strage as they really pretty much take what they want and rape and kill anyone left behind, not a very noble bunch, really. I thought they did a serviceable job with her story, but for me the Wall and it’s forgotten mysteries is ultimately more interesting. Scrappy survivor daughter Arya is my personal favorite and she has one of the more intriguing story lines.

    Overall, yes, i agree it is not perfect, but I’m with your wife and absolutely love it. it is some pretty impressive television. The production team does a remarkable job of making it look like they have a film-sized budget.

    ps- in the books, longswords seem to be the norm. the best ones of ‘valerian steel’ are forged with magic so maybe they are also magically lighter? 😉

    pps- so glad you wrote this one up.

    • Xiphos0311 says :

      Not everybody had long swords, it was just something I noticed when I was bored.

    • Jarv says :

      No problem fishy!

      No doubt it is hugely impressive TV, but it’s not perfect.

      I’ve been thinking about The Wall storyline, and I’m nearly 100% convinced it’s because I think Snow is a mopey, whiny, petulant douche and I strongly dislike fat sidekick. So far, though, we’re 2 for Khal and 2 for The Wall- which shows the problems inherent to adapting it- both of those sections are to some extent extraneous to the main story strand, and yet both are vital to later bits of the storyline. It really should have been split into 3 and given a few more episodes. Emily is fine as Danaerys, but the story isn’t fleshed out enough in the early stages. We’re meant to believe she goes from being a downtrodden mousey type, learns the pleasure of going on top, comes to dominate? Needed much more background- although the stuff with her brother was better. Regarding the Wall- again, there’s no feeling of why this lot are so devoted to each other. Basically, they seem to be split in internal divides and every single other scene had Snow moping or whinging about honour and his family. I understand Samwise latching on to him (Xi is right, his name is Samwell- which is borderline plagiarism), but I don’t see how or why he’d inspire loyalty and there’s nothing to suggest why he’d be being groomed for leadership. If anything they state that he’s ahead because of advantages he had at the start. Should have been split.

      From what I understand, this is going to become more complicated- there’s the war storyline with Robb, whatever Jamie is up to, Bran, Arya, Danaerys, Snow, Court machinations, Tyrion.

      That’s ridiculous- and is going to need culling because it’s going to become unweildy. I presume Danaerys is building up to invade at the end, and the zombie horde is going to pour across the wall. Therefore, the 3 main storylines are going to need to stay pretty much intact. However, Arya and Bran will certainly need some serious changes. Personally, I’d kill Jamie now if I was the adapter- fuck him, he’s horrible anyway, and it would be in character for Robb to take his head.

      • Kimsie says :

        Jaime’s gone — inprisoned (hence no storyline. being in prison is boring.). Tyrion IS court machinations, as soon as he gets there. Some storylines you haven’t seen will start — Stannis and Renly (not spoilering, am i?) Others will end, conclusively.

      • Jarv says :

        Thanks for the comment Kimsie.

        No, you’re not spoiling, as I’ve read ahead. Jamie gets free and goes on a quest and loses his hand and whatnot. Personally, I’d have had his head if I was Robb.

      • Xiphos0311 says :

        I can easily believe Samwise…er…Samwell or let’s just call it like it is, Character Plagiarism, falling in with Snow. Snow was the only person, apparently ever, that treated Character Plagerism like a man that’s some powerful juju for a loser. Plus Snow got the others to leave him alone which is also a powerful force, like crack powerful, acting on somebody as weak as Character Plagiarism.

        I do agree they cut way too much out of the training section to believe those guys became brothers. I don’t know much but I do know hard training bonds men together and it doesn’t happen overnight and not by some guy making a few light cutting jibes at you followed by a nice dinner.

      • Jarv says :

        It was just too short. They go from Snow saving his ass, to having CP follow him around like a bad smell like he’s got a man-crush making goo goo eyes.

        I stand by this- 3 6 episode miniseries would have allowed the bits like the Wall, and Danaerys to breathe properly.

      • Xiphos0311 says :

        Kimsie no worries about spoilers, it will probably be more then a year until the next season, thanks for posting.

      • Xiphos0311 says :

        I have to disagree Jarv. I’ve see kids and adults latch onto someone fast who treats them even half ass decent.
        I can buy into that but to make it more believable they should have shown more, just like they should have shown boot camp A LOT more and make it much harder then standing around on the parade deck waving mock swords

  6. tombando says :

    *Could it use some Giant Robots?

    *Do you need to have read the books or whatever to get more outta watching this?

    *Sean Bean AGAIN?! He’s like Dub Taylor in old westerns–there he is again/again/again/again. He was in Troy, remember. (Bean not Taylor)

    *If this were to be pared down to a couple of movies, who should direct? and I don’t wanna hear Rob Cohen’s name tossed around too much in the conversation.

    *Amorous midget?? do they fling him at the baddies via a catapult?

    *the Monkey needs to see this I think…

    • Jarv says :

      1) Yes. Everything could
      2) No. I’d recommend NOT reading them, actually.
      3) Indeed.
      4) I think a few miniseries would be the best option for it. Twohy should direct
      5) He does kill someone with a shield.
      6) I’m not sure, the simian isn’t big on S&S. Pillows needs to see it, I’d reckon.

  7. Frank Marmoset says :

    I was on the fence about this one. On the one hand, I enjoy boobs and stabbery and Peter Dinklage. On the other, the fantasy genre is not really my cup of tea.

    But you’ve convinced me to give it a try. I’ll watch a few episodes this weekend and see how I get on with it.

    • Jarv says :

      The first few are setting up as much as anything. 4 marks the turning point.

      • Jarv says :

        Also, there’s a severe lack of stabbery in the first few episodes. The Tribesmen do a bit, and there’s a beheading in the first, but it’s the later episodes that are stock full of stabbery.

      • Frank Marmoset says :

        So you’re saying I should be patient with the first few episodes?

        Check. I can do that, especially if the reward for my patience is plenty of stabbery.

        If nothing else, it will make a nice change of pace from Heroes, which I’m struggling to finish. What a load of old cack.

      • Jarv says :

        You still going with that?

        I abandoned it half way through series 2.

        There’s mucho boob, a bit of minge and some stabbery in the first few, but the last few has far less boob, a bit more minky and lots more stabbery.

        Also, you on for Drunken Cinema on Thursday.

      • Frank Marmoset says :

        Pure stubbornness is keeping me going with Heroes. I don’t want to let it beat me. Just started season 4, so it will be over soon. The only positive I’m taking away from this experience is it has increased my appreciation for well-written genre shows. Christ, it’s so bad it increases my appreciation for mediocre genre shows.

        And no, sorry, I can’t do this Thursday.

      • Jarv says :

        Shame.

        We need to find a date to do this. It’s a gem of a film as well!

      • Jarv says :

        And fuck Heroes. Has it been cancelled yet?

      • Frank Marmoset says :

        I’m going to be busy in the evenings for the next few weeks, so don’t reschedule Drunken Cinema on my account. I’ll just sit this one out and then jump back in with whatever the next film is.

        Heroes was cancelled last year. Season 4 was the last one. Hooray! Light at the end of the tunnel!

      • Jarv says :

        Wikipedia reckoned that Season 5 was in the works.

        Utter dogshit. There used to be a site called http://www.ihatemohinder.com but it has gone now.

  8. Droid says :

    I’ll probably check this out someday. Still got to do Rome, Boardwalk Empire, The Shield and The Wire 2-5 before this one.

    • Jarv says :

      Rome and The Wire 3-5>>>>>>> Game of Thrones.

      Rome in particular.

      • Droid says :

        Thought you hated TW 5.

      • Jarv says :

        I hated the end of the Wire 5. Stop at the second to last episode.

      • Xiphos0311 says :

        What was wrong with the last episode of the Wire?

      • Jarv says :

        In particular? How the newsroom bit of the story played out. The crime bits worked well, and it was good to see the schools working again. The streets were played honestly as well. I know journalists are scum only narrowly beating out politicians, but the newsroom sequences made me want to kick the telly.

      • Jarv says :

        It’s hard to do this without spoiling, but the news room bits of the end weren’t earned as well. The lid had been blown off, and it wasn’t resolved in any satisfactory way. Worse than that, it wasn’t even addressed and felt like they realised that it was too late to do something proper so just jammed in the presentation.

      • Xiphos0311 says :

        Are you talking about the investigation into the reporter? disagree about the schools.

      • Jarv says :

        Both.

        The school was at least a nod, and the payoff with the junky kid was a second. It was also from a few series ago, so I was fine seeing it just referenced. The paper was a major storyline and it was shafted. One of the most unsatisfactory endings ever.

      • Xiphos0311 says :

        I don’t remember that much about the resolution for the paper part of the story line. I thought the resolution for everything else was excellent and in keeping with the bleak tradition of the Wire. The kids were especially tragic except for Namond, that punk.

      • Xiphos0311 says :

        This discussion reminded me I should finish The Wire post I’ve been working on.

    • koutchboom says :

      And Breaking Bad.

  9. Col. Tigh-Fighter says :

    I loved the show. The final few episodes were immense. Much stabbery and shenanigans.

    I do love the danerys stuff, and the final reveal at the end sets up a very interesting season 2. I dont mind the Wall stuff. I think there is a sense of brooding that kicked up a notch in the final episodes too.

    So roll on season 2, but I do worry that they may have spinning plates at the moment, and it will take some skill to service every storyline.

    But I have heard that established characters do get killed off, and smaller ones step up in prominance. Maybe thats a good way of doing it.

    • Jarv says :

      Cheers Colonel.

      Fucking good stuff, and roll on Season 2!

      Characters get killed off, but towards the end. However, the minor characters become step up. It sounds to me like lots of plates spinning in the air.

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