Good Vampire Films: Martin

I’ve been thinking about this for a week now, and I still don’t really know how I feel about it. I freely admit to having battered wife syndrome where Romero is involved, so I’m pretty certain this is actually crap, and yet I keep hearing that it’s a lost classic of the genre. I’m not even sure it qualifies as a vampire film to be honest, as Martin clearly isn’t a vampire. He does drink blood, but he’s a sexual serial killer. There’s nothing paranormal about him, in fact, if anything he’s depressingly mundane. Nevertheless, at the same time there is something interesting about it, and I was endlessly fascinated by the UK VHS cover whenever I saw it in the video shop in the 80’s. Sadly, Redemption Films went bust and so I can’t find a copyable picture of that cover, but it held a kind of perverse attraction for me.

Martin is, I suppose, a kind of revisionist modern take on the vampire mythology. Martin is a little douchebag to be honest, with myriad personality flaws (not least of which is that he sedates women, then drinks their blood) who has to live with his fundamentalist cousin Cuda in a small town in the ass end of Pennsylvania. Cuda feeds Martin’s mania by constantly referring to his teenage lodger as Nosferatu and doing crazy things like getting the priest in for an exorcism. On the other hand, though, Martin has no intention of refraining from killing people. Eventually events come to a head, and tragedy follows.

The thing is, this is a deeply mundane film. In fact, if anything, it revels in the complete deconstruction of the vampire mythology. Basically, Martin is a rapist and a serial killer with a mania, and the root of his lunacy is obviously in that he can’t get laid. It’s unsurprising that he stops killing people when he starts getting involved with “the sexy stuff” but he is still driven by his compulsion to kill. Within the first 20 minutes, Romero goes out of his way to strip any last vestige of the supernatural from his film, and once he’d finished there was really nothing out of the ordinary left. We’re to believe that Martin is a vampire because he keeps saying he is, but he just fucking isn’t, and it’s this leap of faith that I’m unable to make, and this is probably why I have such mixed feelings towards it.

The acting, on the other hand is clearly quite good. John Amplas in the titular role has to carry the whole film, and to be fair to him he pulls it off. Linocln Maazel is hugely entertaining as Cuda, ranting superstitious garbage at Martin on every opportunity and the sado=masochistic relationship between the two characters is probably the most interesting thing about the film. Cuda is out of line with his teenage cousin, but at the same time, Martin is a dick and clearly revels in winding the old man up. The rest of the support is OK without being exceptional.

This is, ostensibly, a horror film (although I wouldn’t be surprised to find out that it was a fucking therapy session for Romero to work out his feelings of teenage inadequacy), and so there has to be a few killings. The opening murder on the train is gruesome and uncomfortable viewing, and the later killing of the adulterous couple is messy and reasonably exciting, but I was kind of hoping he’d get caught. However, it isn’t frightening in the slightest, and more importantly, it isn’t any fun either.

This has to be pinned purely on Romero. Martin was almost without budget so Romero shot it on 16mm and as a result it looks like shit. There’s no feeling that this is cinematic, if anything it feels like I’m watching a crap British soap opera from the 80’s. Furthermore, I do also wonder if they ran out of money completely and had to cut the film short, because the climax of the film is as jarring and out of the blue as the shootings at the end of Easy Rider. If there’s an extended cut out there that fills it out a bit more, then maybe that would help things out.

Then there’s the script which really is (outside of Cuda’s histrionics) an exercise in banality. I’m sure Romero was deluded enough to think that this was some sort of paean to teenage alienation, but it really isn’t. He has Martin endlessly narrating (ostensibly a phone conversation with a crappy radio DJ) about what it is to be a “real” vampire, but all he is is a silly and deluded little boy. It’s pretentious claptrap, and the attempts at demystification were grating and irritating for me after a while. Worse still, he wrote himself into the most stupid and avoidable dead end, and so to extricate Martin from this idiocy he simply threw in a gunfight (for no reason) that is both obnoxious and grotesquely out of place in the film.

Nevertheless, it isn’t a complete loss- in fact the word I’d use to describe it is competent. That’s exactly what everything in Martin is: competent. It’s not unexciting or uninteresting, and it’s not irritating either. It just sort of plods along in a completely worthy and obviously well made sort of way without doing anything to merit either hatred or the quite ridiculous level of acclaim that it has.

I’d like to talk about the score here, but I can’t remember it at all. Not a note. Which leads me to believe that it’s as competent as everything else about Martin (aside from the acting). I mean, really, I’m not asking for a grand orchestral accompaniment, but on the other hand give me something to help the atmosphere along.

Which brings me on to the atmosphere of the film. It hasn’t got any. I could actually argue that this film, this kitchen-sink vampire tale, is as devoid of atmosphere as the fucking moon. There’s no feeling that this is in any way special, no feeling of awe or wonder, no terror or fear, there’s just nothing. And that, I think, is the most damning thing I can say about it: Martin is just terribly average.

Overall, would I recommend Martin? I don’t honestly know. I’m so ambivalent about it, and so utterly without enthusiasm for it that I can’t say, and yet I don’t hate it at all. In conclusion, what Romero has done here is create a film that is utterly mediocre, and in the words of Martin himself “there is no magic”. I have to agree with him, there is no magic to Martin and as such I give it 1 and a half  completely unexcited Changs.

I’m damned if I know where all the acclaim comes from.

Until next time,

Jarv

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94 responses to “Good Vampire Films: Martin”

  1. xiphos0311 says :

    It is Romero so it’s shit.

    Still next weekend I will drag my battered spouse ass to the movies to watch the newest Zombie movie by Romero. I just know that this time it will be different. I will deserve every punch, slap and kick of the beating I am going to get.

    • Jarv says :

      Mug

      Diary of the Turd finally broke me of Romero zombie films.

      • xiphos0311 says :

        I just know KNOW this time it will be different

      • Continentalop says :

        Ha! I imagine Xi sitting home with a black eye and a copy of Diary of the Dead saying “But you don’t understand! He’s normally not like this! He’s just under a lot of pressure!”

      • xiphos0311 says :

        That is my experience with Romero going back to when I saw that god awful Dawn Of the Dead the day it opened. The abusive motehrfucker gets worse picture to picture and I keep going back like an Irish housewife.

      • Continentalop says :

        You didn’t like Dawn of the Dead? Man, that was his best one.

        To me it was Day of the Dead that signaled the beginning of the end.

      • xiphos0311 says :

        Nope Night was the best one.

        They started going down hill with Dawn fast. Day was fucking atrocious but I did get some play off a girl at the drive in so that was OK.

        The remake that came out a couple of years ago has the dubious honor of being even worse then the original if you can grasp that idea.

      • Jarv says :

        I’m also in the Dawn was the highpoint camp. Day/ Land/ Diary get progressively more shit.

        Diary was clearly the “miscarraige having been kicked in the womb film” that got me into a battered wife refuge.

      • Droid says :

        I’ve only ever seen the Dawn remake and the one with Simon Baker and John Leguizamo. Land of the Dead? It came out about 2006 I think.

      • Jarv says :

        The Dawn remake is a crass moronic awful film. Utter shit. “Visionary director Zack Snyder” is a fucking talentless a-hole that makes bad films.

        Survival of the Dead (stupid fucking title) is a direct sequel to Diary, and as Diary was in the top 20 worst films I saw last decade, I can safely say that I won’t be watching a direct sequel to it.

      • Droid says :

        I didn’t mind it. Granted I saw it in Paris after I had walked around all day in the blazing sun without sunscreen. I was a tad burnt and was prepared to sit through anything for a couple of hours of air conditioning. I may have had sunstroke.

      • Jarv says :

        Stupid cretinous faux-satirical shite. Awful, awful fucking film

        I truly detested it.

      • Droid says :

        Eh. It was alright.

      • Jarv says :

        No it wasn’t.

        You know your feelings about the crass stupidity of surrender hulk? That’s how I feel about Snyder’s “reimagining”.

        I’m also starting to think I’ve got battered wife syndrome with Snyder as well. He’s made 3 films and I’ve detested 2 of them with one being vaguely passable, but still hugely cretinous.

        Dude’s a fucking hack and I need to stop seeing his stuff.

      • Continentalop says :

        I definitely fall under the Dawn of the Dead remake sucks crap.

        Actually, if it wasn’t called Dawn of the Dead I probably would have forgiven it and found it serviceable (the opening and end credits are still the best part of it), but really it was banking on a cult classics name. If you’re film is original enough you don’t need to be fucking banking on the original’s name.

      • Jarv says :

        Opening credits the best bit? In a Snyder film? Surely not.

        he’s the quintessential ad director. Useless, talentles, unimaginative twat.

        Hopefully Turdmen will have killed his career.

      • Droid says :

        Ah, but you know you’ll continue to see his movies, because bitching and complaining about him is your life blood.

      • Continentalop says :

        Actually Jarv I think the opening credits with The Man Come s Around is a great little horror music video. If I had seen just the opening credits (where we see newscast around the world) and the end credits (with the cast in that boat) I would have walked away happy.

        Unfortunately, I had to stay and see baby zombie and a bunch of idiots waiting to be munched on by zombies.

      • Jarv says :

        I wasn’t taking the piss- the opening credits of Snyder’s Dawn are great, and the opening credits of Turdmen are also great.

        It’s the rest of the films. Dude has the ability to make 5 minutes worth of good movie. No more.

  2. Droid says :

    Brace yourself….

    I… haven’t… seen… this!!!

    dun-dun-dunnnnnnn

    In fact I’ve never even heard of it before. And going on this review, I won’t be rushing out to watch it either.

    • Jarv says :

      I was rereading this this morning and I’ve made it sound worse than it is. It isn’t a bad film- I think the most accurate thing I wrote about it is that it’s competent.

      But no, don’t rush out to see it either. If you blunder into it, it will hold your attention, but certainly don’t put any effort in to seeing it.

      • Droid says :

        Fair enough. The problem is that I don’t really stumble upon films anymore. Actually I never really did because I stopped watching films on tv when I was 15 because I cannot stand adverts and venturing down the video store and getting 5 weeklies for 5 bucks was lots of fun. I loved spending an hour looking at all the movies I’d never seen before and choosing which ones I wanted to watch. Thats something I miss. Theres a lot of shit like DVR’ing and Sky movies now that don’t have ads but my habits have been formed.

        The result of that is I don’t come across stuff like this, which for good or for bad, is rather unknown and/or obscure and sometimes worth watching.

        Now, I have relied on finding things myself and also hearing what other people recommend. Unfortunately for you, I won’t listen to any recommendation from you since the ‘Hard Rock Zombies’ debacle. 😉

      • Continentalop says :

        You’ve seen Hard Rock Zombies, but you won’t see Anthropophagus? I am so hurt.

      • Droid says :

        After HRZ I learnt very quickly to be wary of “recommendations”.

      • Continentalop says :

        Actually, I think I have been pretty good with recommendations.

        And it isn’t like I didn’t warn Jarv and Frank about Thundercrack! and Last House on Dead End Street before hand.

      • Droid says :

        There’s legit recommendations which I appreciate, then theres “let’s see if I can get him to watch this” recommendations of which I’m wary of.

      • Continentalop says :

        So you’re saying Anthropophagus is not legit?

      • Droid says :

        That’s exactly what I’m saying Mr Continentalop.

      • Jarv says :

        Look, there will be NO badmouthing Hard Rock Zombies.

        A midget eats his own head= greatest thing ever filmed.

        Anyway, there’s two types of recommendations I give out- schlocky ones which I suspect Droid should never see as he’s going to pretty much hate them, and proper ones which are entirely different.

        The acid test is “do you find a dwarf eating his own head funny?” if so, then I’m probably quite a good guide for schlock. If you don’t, then ignore any recommendation I make on that stuff.

  3. ThereWolf says :

    “Mundane” is the right word. While I thought Martin was interesting, you’ve hit it spot on by saying he’s more a rapist than a vampire.

    Ultimately, that’s what turned me off the movie.

    • Jarv says :

      As a complete deconstruction it is interesting for about half an hour, but it’s just far too much of a boring idea to carry for a full feature.

      I keep reading how Martin is Romero’s most personal film. While this is probably true, it doesn’t make Romero look good at all.

  4. Continentalop says :

    I’m going to disagree with you Jarv. To me this is a lost classic.

    Yes, Martin is not “really” a vampire. But that is the point. He is a dull, boring teenager trying his hardest to be interesting, and nothing is more interesting than being a vampire.

    Plus, if you look at vampire mythology, especially in movies, it is that they really are just sexual predators. Martin is what would happen if someone tried to fill the role of Bela Lugosi or Christopher Lee without having any of their charm or hypnotic powers. Where they can mesmerize a woman and than erotically bite their necks, Martin is reduced to fighting with them, sticking a needle in them to knock them out and then cutting them open brutally to get to the red stuff. Hardly the debonaire image of Count Dracula.

    In fact I think Martin tries to make a statement by having his character so unlike the vampires of films. The difference between Martin and vampire movie characters like Dracula is at least the woman can be said to be somewhat accepting in the attacks. It is as much rape fantasy as it is rape. Martin is the farthest thing from rape fantasy, and the character of Martin is far from the powerful, male fantasy figures of Dracula.

    For me Martin says “You can fantasize about being Dracula and being this sexually alluring guy, but in reality you’re a fucking loser.” Twilight fans need to see this.

    • Jarv says :

      I do get it, honestly, and it is a clearly well made film, it just doesn’t do anything for me and I got tired of his antics pretty quickly. I do agree about the fucking loser argument and it is clearly a well thought out deconstruction, but…

      At the same time, the ending is far too abrupt, there’s the terrible shoot out sequence I mentioned, and so on and so forth, but above all else, there’s no atmosphere to it. It felt for me completely lifeless, and that’s my biggest problem with it.

      It’s obviously not a bad film, but a classic? I’m not so sure.

      • Continentalop says :

        I kind of see it as fitting the style of the times – the 70s. Sure you had atmospheric movies like Taxi Driver, Exorcist, Aliens, etc. but you also had hard boiled detective films like Hickey & Boggs and Night Moves played straight, and the films naturalism and realism of Dog Day Afternoon, Scarecrows and Two Lane Blacktop.

        I know you didn’t mean exclusively visual, but I think the “mundane” nature of the film played well against the black & white fantasy in his head. Once again, it was kind of “the way you think it is” version the stark hard reality of the situation.

        As for the ending, I think it was Romero trying to go against the cliche. Instead of a climatic ending, he ends it suddenly and pathetically (killed for the wrong crime) fitting with his theme of the image of vampires versus the reality of what Martin is. I’m not saying it was successful (obviously not, since it didn’t work for you) but that is what I felt Romero was trying to do.

      • Jarv says :

        See, I thought he’d just run out of money.

        I get what you’re saying, but imagine Mean Streets stripped of all atmosphere following a pair of loser mobsters around new york with the occasional fantasy montage. It wouldn’t be great, and sure we could discuss the brilliance of deconstructing the mob, but it wouldn’t be remotely as good as what we got.

        That;s what Martin felt like to me- just soulless, like an academic essay as opposed to a novel.

      • Tom_Bando says :

        Believe it or not I have Two-Lane BlackTop.

        Warren Oates is a god.

        Thank you.

        I liked Scarecrows too just because you had Serpico and Popeye Doyle in the same movie. Worked for me.

      • Jarv says :

        Why have I not seen Scarecrows. I must remedy this

      • Continentalop says :

        I just had a different reaction I guess. I saw it as honest character study, without the trappings of genre or false sentimentality getting in the way.

        You called it an academic essay, I don’t see it as that. I see it as more like an oral history or written account. Sure this film is fiction, but Romero actually shoots it as if it happened, and to me it has a feeling of truth and realism a lot of film don’t have (even ones that don’t involve a faux vampire killing women in 70’s Pennsylvania).

        BTW – did you know the first victim in Martin was also in Beyond the Valley of the Dolls?

      • Continentalop says :

        Warren Oates is God. I pray to him at least once a day (and unlike your Christian God, he delivers).

      • Jarv says :

        That’s fair enough- I just think with sensationalist material (leaving aside the various problems the film has), and if you deconstruct it then you run the risk of stripping it down until there is nothing left- I think Romero went too far with it.

        The realistic doc style of it was interesting for a bit, but as with all deconstructions, once you reduce it down, you’ve got to have something to replace it with, and I don’t think Romero did.

      • Jarv says :

        Oh, and I didn’t know that. That’s a funny film.

        At the end of the day, Martin isn’t a bad film, and I am glad I’ve seen it, but I don’t think I’ll be watching it again. It certainly isn’t an abject failure like a lot of vampire movies.

  5. Tom_Bando says :

    *Never heard of it.

    *Haven’t seen it (obviously).

    *Not going to see it.

    *Will forget I heard of it.

    *Consider giving Jarv some sorta masochistic Medal for his constant taking one for the team bent. Indeed.

    • Jarv says :

      This isn’t that awful Bando, and it is at least an original, non-Twilighty look at vampirism.

      The Hunger is up next and then I’m definitely doing Near Dark and Fright Night. Enough of this postmodernism.

  6. Tom_Bando says :

    Fright Night is your friend. I like that one. Roddy is great in it.

  7. Tom_Bando says :

    Conti Pops they should try a (TV) film of Morbious(The Living Vampire). Hey I think it could work–

    • Continentalop says :

      I actually think Morbious and Werewolf by Night are the two Marvel horror characters that could work on the big or little screen (much better than Son of Satan or The Living Mummy at least).

      • Jarv says :

        Correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t Morbius start out life as a Spidey Villain?

        And doesn’t he have existential problems about being a vampire? No thanks.

        Although, you could start him in Spidey and then let him go off on his own. An anti-hero thing- vigilante vampire that kills muggers while searching for his cure.

        On this note, I’ve got to review Fist of the Vampire at some point, but it’s a 4 murph film.

      • Continentalop says :

        Yes he did, but the Punisher started off as a Spidey foe as well, and he developed a life of his own.

      • Tom_Bando says :

        *Werewolf by Night would be good. Classic character.

        *Forgot about their Mummy. Hmmmmm. You could be right.

        *Morbious was always kinda funky but it’d be interesting to see what a halfways decent writer could make of it.

        *Son of Satan prob. worked best in print.

        *I seem to remember a ‘Werewolf by Night’ in Development story a few years back, but you know how that always winds up. 22 years ago I remember hearing ditto about a Wizard of Id ‘in development’ story in the back pages of Starlog. Heck they’d repeat Anything they were told, I guess. Paul Williams was to play the king. Well it prob. woulda sucked but still-

      • Continentalop says :

        Yeah, I don’t thin Son of Satan would really work good on film. Neither would his sister, Satanna.

        But do you remember DC’s “I, Vampire?” That probably could work as a movie.

        Also do you remember Tales of the Zombie? That also might work as a b-movie.

    • Tom_Bando says :

      Vaguely to both there Conti Pops. I also remember some sorta ‘Hollywood Monsters go to WWII’ DC Comic back when too. It was lousy.

      • Continentalop says :

        Fuck! I totally forgot about the Creature Commandoes. They are so schlocky they would make a great movie.

        A fucking vampire, werewolf and Frankenstein monster in GI fatigues and fighting Nazis? Fucking gold.

        And I remember G.I. Robot as well now. Weird War stories I believe.

  8. Continentalop says :

    Jarv (and the other limeys and anyone else), you ever see a movie called I Start Counting? Made in 1970 I believe with a very young jenny Agutter? If you have, wondering what you think (I kind of dug it).

    • Jarv says :

      Years and years ago. I don’t remember it.

      I’ll have to rewatch that as well.

      • Continentalop says :

        You ever see the Nanny with Bette Davis?

      • Jarv says :

        No. Not seen that one. I’m still trying to talk Mrs. Jarv into Baby Jean, but she’s proving to be stubborn about it. She gets funny notions about films and digs her heels in.

      • Continentalop says :

        Put it on your list. Damn good movie. More in the spirit of the Collector or Peeping Tom than in the mode of Whatever Happened to Baby Jane.

        Going to throw more titles at you: You ever see Curse of the Demon? Or Burn, Witch, Burn?

  9. xiphos0311 says :

    I was about to make Jarv go ballistic for the fun of it but I think what I wrote might have actually made his head explode like in Scanners.

    Instead I will say I prefer the remake of Dawn over the original which I thought wasn’t any good at all. I will agree that that Snyder isn’t any good, except for Dawn of the Dead.

    • Jarv says :

      I’ve heard of people that prefer Snyder’s festering abscess of a film, but always believed they were like unicorns and didn’t actually exist, or if they did exist were timid creatures that shun caputre and conceal themselves for the survival of their species.

      • xiphos0311 says :

        I have no problem at all saying it. The original is shit.

      • Continentalop says :

        You meant “THE shit.”

      • xiphos0311 says :

        No, I meant “PILE of”

      • Jarv says :

        Right, well, I’m going to shoot you with a tranquiliser gun and hand you over to movie scientist to investigate what the hell is going on.

      • Jarv says :

        Obviously, I say “I” but I mean “someone else” and that also clearly means “from a big fucking distance”.

        I’m not crazy.

      • xiphos0311 says :

        Why am I getting tranqed? and can I order up some special K?

      • Jarv says :

        So movie scientists can study you to determine what makes you tick.

        I can get you the Special K. Easy and inexpensive.

      • xiphos0311 says :

        Ah kids and their wacky animal tranqs. Who the hell that was a good idea?

        kid 1: “Dude you know what we should try?”

        kid2: “no brah what?

        kid1: “ketomine man, its an animal tranq dude, totally, radically hard core brah. My dad has like a garage full yo.”

        kid2: fuck yeah Dawg!

        Retards.

      • Jarv says :

        I can give you the really boring answer if you want- but in a nutshell, Ketamine became famous as a drug because it’s cheaper and easier to manufacture than MDMA so a lot of pills in the late 90’s contained a minute amount of E and a lot of K.

        Some idiots decided they like it, so actively buy K nowadays. Same fuckers that voluntarily take Rohypnol.

      • xiphos0311 says :

        i know about the stuff it’s just so fucking dumb that I have trouble wrapping my head around it.

      • Jarv says :

        The addicts are idiots, but the dealers were actually quite clever, because K is a hell of a lot more powerful than MDMA so they were making savings all round.

        One of the reasons I stopped taking E actually, well that and a minor overdose.

      • Jarv says :

        And you can apply the “why” logic to a lot of drugs. Who on earth thought taking PCP was a good idea? Even psych journals at the time said that the effects were too volatile for it to be worth taking to get high.

      • xiphos0311 says :

        I’ve always said dealers are the best businessmen. They find the market before hand then stampede their clients to it. Brilliant business plan.

      • Jarv says :

        Not to mention that they can always find a way to lower costs and raise profit.

      • Droid says :

        I had a very brief flirtation with E over here but stopped taking them because they were absolute shit and you needed about 4 of them. You’d get a tiny 30 minute buzz then proceed to grind your teeth and hate the world for 3 days.

        MDMA is a lot better. More up, less down.

      • Jarv says :

        That’ll be the speed they put in to try to con people that it’s actual E.

        MDMA is extremely hard to make and releases loads of green toxic gas. I’m amazed anyone ever managed to make enough to make E popular.

        There’s practically no MDMA in an actual E nowadays.

  10. Tom_Bando says :

    Attack of the Killer Giant Robot Lions! Xiphos the line starts right >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>there. W/ Zombies. I’d watch.

  11. Continentalop says :

    OK, I just remembered a British horror movie that Jarv has got to put on his Vampire movie list – Vampyres (1974).

    Now I am not saying it is good, but I will say it probably could play as the Halloween episode of the Dyketective.

    • Jarv says :

      I think I’ve seen that. I’m also trying to track down the Italian Female Vampire film from the 70’s but can’t remember what it’s called.

      • Continentalop says :

        The Velvet Vampire? Does it take place in a desert? And does it involve a lot of dyketecting?

      • Jarv says :

        No. It takes place in a rural town and involves an awful lot of gratuitous nuddyness and she sucks the “lifeforce” out of men.

        I remember it being hilarious in a soft-core porn type of way.

  12. Tom_Bando says :

    A good Peter Boyle movie from the ’70’s-Crazy Joe. I like that one. Anything w/ Michael Gazzo is worth seeing(well, usually) just because.

    • Continentalop says :

      Joe is a damn good movie. Especially how they introduce Boyle at the bar.

      And Susan Sarandon’s first movie I believe.

      • Jarv says :

        Not necessarily a good thing.

        The best first/ early roles are always Troma. Costner, Billy Bob Thornton, Marissa Tomei, etc.

        Troma is a finishing school for actors.

    • Continentalop says :

      Wait a second. You’re talking about Crazy Joe, not Joe. I got to remember to pay attention (Michael Gazzo should have given that away).

      • Tom_Bando says :

        S’alright Conti. Gazzo was one of those faces I saw EVERYWHERES on TV but could NEVER get his name or remember where I’d seen him. So that kinda got me into the Halliwell Film Guide and some other stuff. I wanted to know who these guys were. Godfather II and all that. Duh.

      • Continentalop says :

        I think Vincent Gardenia and Kenneth McMillan are two other guys like that. I had to go out and learn their names just because I was so sick seeing them in so many movies and not knowing who the hell they were.

      • Tom_Bando says :

        McMillan was a suicide if I remember right? Gardenia–I saw a fun guest-starring app. by him on Kojak once. Clearly looked like a stab at a pilot-Gardenia as a West Coast Kojak, more or less. It wasn’t bad. He was good. Ditto McMillan.

  13. Jarv says :

    We’re clearly getting behind on our lesbian films.

    We’ve still got to get Astrodykes v Werewolves on the Moon written, and now we’ve got sapphic neo-noir classic The Dyketective to be doing.

    We’re slacking badly.

  14. Jon says :

    Since you don’t like modern horror, what about Saw and Hostel? post 9/11 horror movies.

    • Jarv says :

      Actually, Jon- I do like Horror generally, but what passes for Modern Horror tends to be terrible.

      Post 9/11 Horror films that I’ve liked have been The Descent, Leslie Vernon, Eden Lake, Let the Right One In and a few others.

      I don’t tend to like Torture Porn, although I don’t dislike the first Saw. I despise Hostel.

      Cheers.

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