XMR2

Since I’m a useless cripple at the moment(not any more I was at the time I wrote this) I’ve gotten around to seeing some movies, I thought I would roll out the second installment of the mini-review. All of these movies have been out for a while so there’s no need to go in-depth with them. I know I’m going to piss a lot of people off with this one, especially the first two, but c’est la vie and que sera sera.

Enjoy

AVATARD: Go suck a dick Cameron, you condescending cock bag. I realize I’m in the minority here thinking that Avatard isn’t that good. (Except for Frank that is. That monkey is one right thinking simian.) Cameron your space Smurf war movie is in the words of former NBA player and current TNT studio host Charles Barkley, “turrible, just turrible.”

Nuff said about the junky, racist, bone headedly stupid Gaia worshiping smurf war opus you prick. I hope one of your carbon spewing private jets crashes or one of your oil spewing tubs sink you fucking hypocrite. One other point, jerk off, if you make another movie, relearn how to write a STORY and to create real CHARACTERS. Also you arrogant shit bag if it isn’t to much trouble could you stop ripping yourself off you unoriginal hack? Marines versus Space Smurfs in Ferngullyville was much better when it was called Aliens.


The Crap Locker: Mark Boal (henceforth referred to as Bowel) Motherfucker you bought every single wolf ticket those ignorant, evil, peasants from fly over country sold you, didn’t you dumb ass? I got you now cocksucker. I know who and what you are Bowel, you’re like every other scumbag lying piece of shit “journalist” that spent maybe an hour with the “troops” between the late seating for breakfast and the early bar opening in the Green Zone. •YOU•MAKE•THINGS•UP• If, in fact, you spent any time with EOD personnel you didn’t see anything like what you wrote. You have a SSGT who is a section leader for an EOD team that blows off safety SOP and regs . Fuck that noise. Even in the loosey goosey, ill-disciplined rabble that are line units of the US Army YOU NEVER SAW THAT. Not from an EOD member and not from a SSGT. Also, what the fuck was with the Ranger Battalion Scroll on Renner’s right shoulder but no Ranger Tab on the left? Did they change the rules since I left?

I’m not religious Bowels but I’m going to go to every Church, Synagogue, Mosque, Santeria ritual, Voodoo ceremony, Snake handling church, sacred pagan grove, witches coven and any other religious site I can find and pray that you get cancer of both the prick and the ass but don’t die for 40 years. I want you living in intense pain for what you have done. The lowest rung of hell is waiting for you when you die. I devoutly hope Dante is right about what it is.

UPDATE:(The upper part of this was written weeks ago) I have been informed by reliable sources that Bowels went on some morning TV show and copped to the fact that he never saw anything like what he wrote. Lying fucking scumbag and fuck the studio for their shit headed PR campaign, fuck off and go make your blood money off somebody else.


Sherlock Holmes: Surprisingly decent movie, I enjoyed it and it was fairly faithful to the spirit of the books which I appreciated. I have to say I’m shocked that I liked the movie because Guy Ritchie’s track record for me isn’t good. I liked Snatch and that was it. Ritchie mostly avoided the tics and flourishes that mark his movies and played it fairly straight.

They finally got Watson right on film, which made me happy, that poor bastard has been short shifted in movies forever. Downey nailed the essence of Sherlock Holmes from the books although I wonder about his accent. For some reason most of my English friends are north countrymen with heavy accents or from the coasts so my ability to judge the quality of “London/educated” English accents isn’t good. I only know one upper crusty type (royal and a Sandhurst graduate) so his accent is so refined it goes the other way. The other problem I had was understanding Downey on occasion he mumbled and spoke quickly. Although that issue might be due to the theater I saw it in the sound system sucked.

The story is sort of convoluted but so are the books. In the movie’s defense, they drop you in without the benefit of an origin story for which I thank the writer. If you want an origin story go rent the wonderful Young Sherlock Holmes. The action scenes were well staged and even though it’s heavily CGI I didn’t mind it like I usually do. All in all, it’s pretty good and I bet the sequel will be even better.


The Book of Eli: Excellent movie, I mean outstanding I’m still thinking about it. The Hughes brothers did good this time out and I’ve never been impressed by them until now. This is a thinking man’s movie with some great action. Don’t be fooled though this not an action movie. The reason for Eli’s trek could be supernatural intervention or insanity. The religious ideas are on both the intellectual and faith based sides of the arguments, which I find interesting. Even though I’m not religious, I find the concept/history/arguments of/about religion interesting and this movie explored some of that territory.

Denzel turned in one of his better performances as of late and let’s be honest, he’s been mailing it in for a while. Everybody did good in this. Gary Oldman was at his scenery chewing bad guy best, Ray Stevens turned in a nuanced acting job for what could have been a throw away role. Lastly, Mila Kunis is becoming one fine actress. She stood out among all the excellent actors involved in the movie.

The action was shot well and is easily followed. I loved the look of the movie and the “twist”, which is a word I hesitate to use, is handled well (take note Shammy) and works well in the context of the story. I highly recommend this movie if you have not seen it.

*****

That’s the mini-review for this time out. It’s 50/50, half good, half sucktastic.

Mahalo,

Xiphos

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95 responses to “XMR2”

  1. Continentalop says :

    I haven’t seen AVATARD or THE CRAP LOCKER. I probably will though just for conversation pieces and to keep up with what everyone is talking about.

    But SHERLOCK HOLMES was a damned surprise for me too. One thing I really love is the fight scenes in that movie. Not the greatest fight scenes ever, but really damn effective and strangely realistic yet stylized and pulpish. If that makes sense.

    • M. Blitz says :

      Still haven’t seen Sherlock Holmes. Scared to see it.

      • Continentalop says :

        Don’t be. It is Pulp fun. Imagine Sherlock Holmes if he was written by Doc Savage’s Lester Dent or Batman’s Bill Finger and you get the idea. It is faithful to Conan Arthur Doyle’s character but he exist in a slightly more (ok, way more) action pack and pulpish universe.

      • M. Blitz says :

        See you say it like that and it sounds like a really good time. But then these words come floating in from the back of my mind. Guuuuuy…Riiiiiitchie……(it is thanks to your description that they are now just floating in, rather than my brain instantly blaring them out like some kind of warning siren whenever the movie’s brought up)

        I’m gonna watch it though. I’ve been putting it off for too long, and now you’ve tempted me with mention of Lester Dent and Doc Savage!

        What did you think of Shutter Island? Haven’t seen that one yet, either. Not due to active avoidance, quite the contrary, it’s just a pain in the ass getting to the movie theater nowadays. Didn’t wanna short-shrift it by downloading, but I’m running out of patience. Does it even matter?

      • Continentalop says :

        MB, I liked Shutter Island. It isn’t a great by any stretch movie, but it is entertaining and engaging. Just as long as you go in there knowing it isn’t a horror movie or action/thriller, but really a dark psychological drama like Spellbound, Shock Corridor or Possessed. Very classic 1940s & 50s.

        Here is my review at AIBN:

        http://www.aintitbalenews.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=728:continentalop-shutter-island&catid=7:latest-news&Itemid=2

        I would also say it is a movie you enjoy more thinking about and breaking down afterwards than when you are in the theater watching it. Of course, I think K-Boom would disagree.

      • xiphos0311 says :

        Blitz,
        Guy Ritchie’s name and the horrible ads had me leery of SH but then I read Conti’s review and I decided to give it a chance shot at and I’m glad I did.

      • koutchboom says :

        All I’ll say is that if you HAVE to see it, and I suggest you don’t. Just wait for rental. Because maybe then it won’t seem like such a wasted effort.

    • xiphos0311 says :

      The fight scenes were a bit of surprise to me also because Downey was fairly believable in them. i didn’t think he had it in him.

  2. koutchboom says :

    To be fair about the insignia, it can never be correct in TV or films.

    • xiphos0311 says :

      Many movies get the unit insignia correct. Hell they have dozens of guys that float around Hollywood just to get the details correct.

      • koutchboom says :

        Yeah but I read some where I think someone brought it up here that military uniforms can never be 100% correct. Like something has to be different.

  3. koutchboom says :

    Also with The Hurt Locker, the new campaign is that, its not about how truthful or realistic it is, its about the thrill of it.

    Kind of like how with Shutter Island its not about the ending its how you get there sort of deal.

    • Continentalop says :

      I actually agree with that assessment Koutch, about how you get there is more important than the twist.

      SPOILERS: The twist isn’t he is insane, it is HOW he got insane. It is very much like SPELLBOUND, MIRAGE or THE NINTH CONFIGURATION in that sense.

      • xiphos0311 says :

        It might be that the NEW campaign is all about action adventure but in everything I’ve read(and still read) and in the original ad campaign it was all about the “authenticity” and “realism” both of which it failed at like a motherfucker.

  4. koutchboom says :

    Hahaha Sandhurst. Did you do that? I had a roomate that was big into that.

  5. Droid says :

    Wow. You are one angry sumbitch, Xi. I have no idea how you got yourself so worked up over Avatar. I guess I can see THL. Anyway, I loved both those.

    Sherlock was a bit weak IMO. That mumbling wasn’t just you. Half DJr’s dialogue was incomprehensible. That said I enjoyed it for what it was. I’m not a fan of Ritchie either, but in this he did well enough.

    Can’t argue about Eli. ’twas a good flick. The “twist” was fucking preposterous though. I laughed my ass off. But in a good way. And I think it’s Ray StevenSON. The Punisher to quote his birth name.

    • xiphos0311 says :

      I’m angry at getting preached at by a self ripping off asshole that put out a shitty preachy movie telling me I’m bad and evil meanwhile this cocksucker is making billions of dollars off of the USMC and pushing dumb as fuck ecologial bullshit and his “white man’s burden” BS AND reverse racism; that somehow “natives” are pure and nature is a genteel and lovingly warm embrace. Fuck that noise that comes from cockbags that don’t spend any time outdoors unless it is under tightly controlled conditions.

      MEANWHILE said motherfucker has about 10 giant homes, private jets, private industrial boats and has a dumb as fuck “carbon footprint”(total BS concept) about 1000 times larger then everybody here put together if we all lived 250 years. in short HE CAN FUCK OFF AND JAM HIS SHITTY MOVIE UP HIS CORN HOLE.

      • Droid says :

        So essentially you weren’t able to seperate the film from outside influences. You carried your opinion of Cameron, and your issues with him, be it the money, carbon footprint, whatever, in to the film and you took offense to a theme of the film. Fair enough. I didn’t have that reaction.

        As for the “racism”, I don’t get it. It seems that if you look for something in a film (and I’m guilty of this) you can find it. It’s a representation of a race of people. If you see parallels to a certain culture, past or present, then that is your choice. You may think that representation is stupid, heavy handed, whatever, but it’s a total overreaction to call it racism because you apply your agenda on it.

        Also, there’s no such thing as “reverse” racism. The term racism doesn’t apply to any specific race, therefore you aren’t reversing anything. It’s like saying “reverse plagiarism”. Or any “ism” I guess.

        In the end, the things that angered or frustrated you didn’t do that to me. At all. I’ve seen it twice and neither time saw any “racism”, latent, reverse or otherwise. Maybe I’m just ignorant.

    • xiphos0311 says :

      SH wasn’t great I agree but it was a lot better then I thought it would be. Glad to know i wasn’t the only one having problems understanding Downey.

  6. M. Blitz says :

    I took The Hurt Locker to be about PTSD and addiction; not necessarily about the Iraq War, just set in that context. But I can understand being upset about the setting being used carelessly. I get that way about some things, like they are too important (or emotionally charged) to be used as an arbitrary vehicle for talking about something else. If that makes sense. I don’t know, it’s complicated.

    Especially when there was such a media/marketing blitz about how “realistic” it was, that’s always annoying. But yeah, I liked The Hurt Locker. Just that fucking supermarket scene….it’s so perfect.

    • xiphos0311 says :

      At the risk of coming off even angrier then everybody thinks I am but that PTSD shit is garbage foisted on Marines and Soldiers by the waaaaaaaay overly therapeutic society we live in.

      When you separate from service, or are in the hospital(which is really fucking reprehensible on their part what they do there. I threw a pitcher at the dumb bitch that came into my room)or upon return from overseas duty these vultures try to get their hooks into you. You know why there is such a “PTSD problem”? You can get money from Uncle Sugar for it. Guys aren’t dumb they know how to work the system.

      If PTSD is such a “problem” for fighting men I should have offed myself sometime back in early 90’s.

      I can agree with you about the addiction part, I freely admit it is a narcotic and I’m probably hooked.

      • xiphos0311 says :

        Know what? I take that back I do HAVE PTSD it’s from going to College. THAT experience messed my noggin up something fierce.

      • M. Blitz says :

        I don’t want to get too deep into it, but just to be clear, I’m not exactly a cheerleader for the psych diagnostic folks. I think they paint with far too broad a brush too much of the time, and tend to think they are more concerned with preserving social norms than anything else. The “tend” comes in because I don’t want to paint with too broad a brush myself. There are always extreme cases, and also, I don’t want to begrudge anyone their comfort should they find any comfort in current psychological treatments and therapies.

        I was just referring to the particular character in the movie, and the way that his actions resonate with current criteria for PTSD, and the way that particular scene (grocery store) resonates with me on a more personal level.

  7. koutchboom says :

    Also how is Avatar raciest? Against Indians? I mean if you look at how any time in history when a more advance technolgy wise race stumbled upon another race, that other race usually got fucked up.

    Thats why I always say, if their our aliens out there, I hope we find them first. Because ain’t no way that peaceful First Contact scene is ever happening.

  8. Tom_Bando says :

    I enjoyed Avatar and Sherlock Holmes, Avatar more so than Holmes (but both were good). Donno what Xiphos really hates about Avatar, but I can guess-it Pissed all over the Thunderkats/Smurfs 80’s legacy and that’s what REALLY got him riled up(Something fierce).

    While I can agree that Lion-o would have been better used in the sequel to Cloverfield (the one W/ the Giant Robot Lions, by the way, not w.out), I think that this was okay actually. And as for the Smurfs-hey bloo and tall vs. bloo, short and gay. Think about it.

    Holmes was fun. It didn’t make a whole lotta sense at times. They blowed shit up good. It struck me as being a Bruckheimer. I give Downey Jr. a pass on most stuff now and for this, too, he more than earned it.

    Have not seen Hurt Locker or Eli Roth’s Book. DVD time for both.

  9. Continentalop says :

    Xi, about the Hurt Locker. One person I really feel sorry for about this film (I mean, besides the actual soldiers) is Katherine Bigelow. Here is this woman who puts out a movie that resonates with everyone, gets her nominated and so close to winning, and then to probably have the rug pulled out from under her because the validity of the movie is now (rightfully) under question.

    She didn’t write it, and she had no reason to doubt the guy who did, Bowels, a reporter who has embedded with the troops. Sure she could have researched it more, but she still might have thought “well, Bowels was over there, I wasn’t.”

    Not saying she is a victim, but I do feel sorry for her. I still hope she wins Best Director and someone else get best picture.

    Of course, if she knew it was 100% BS to begin with, then I hope she looses too.

    • xiphos0311 says :

      I don’t have a problem with Bigelow so much. I think she just wanted to make a good movie and if they set it in like Fauxraq or some other country that didn’t have real men, doing a real job in a real place then my reaction would have been quite different. Plus I fucking hate reporters with a passion they are a bunch of lazy lying shit heels.

      If she knew though then she deserves to lose. I do want her to win for two reasons. First she can lord it over that asshole Cameron and second I don’t want Cokey to win, THAT would be a travesty because his shit pile was worse then Avatard or the Crap Locker.

      • Continentalop says :

        What about Superman? Clark Kent is a reporter. You don’t hate him, do you?

      • xiphos0311 says :

        No Clark doesn’t count because of the whole Truth, Justice and American way slogan and Clark Kent is to much of a gentlemen to be a schmuck.

  10. herrmilflover says :

    Somebody had a nice big bowl of Angry-Os this morning!

    My quick takes: didnt like Avatar, except for some of the action scenes, but I didnt hate it like you, it just bored me to hell; zero interest in Hurt Locker; Holmes was good entertainment, agreed on Downey’s mumbled accent, and Kurrgan rules (that’s the french giant); Eli is excellent, my favorite movie this year so far.

    • xiphos0311 says :

      The angry- 0’s have been eaten for a while. They just surfaced when I wrote this.

      Eli was indeed excellent I think I’m going to buy it when it comes out on DVD and I never buy DVD’s.

    • xiphos0311 says :

      I agree about the movie being boring that’s what you get when you don’t have a story or characters you aren’t invested in.

  11. kloipy says :

    Xi, i thought I was in the minority about Hurt Locker. I didn’t hate it as much as you admittably, some scenes I thought were very well done. But. I don’t understand the critical fawning over this movie. It’s not THAT good.
    I liked Avatar for what it was (a showcase of CGI and 3D) but on the second viewing most of it bored me to tears. Haven’t seen SH or Eli yet

    • xiphos0311 says :

      Nope kloipy you are not alone. I can introduce you to MANY people that hate the movie more then me and those guys and Gals have a hard on for the Army and love to see it in a bad light.

      I would suggest Eli as the best movie to see out of the bunch. I really enjoyed that one.

  12. Continentalop says :

    Ha. One of the producers of The Hurt Locker, Nicolas Chartier (whom I actually know from my days in soft-core, he used to work for Alain Siritzky) has been banned from attending the Academy Awards.

    http://carpetbagger.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/03/02/hurt-locker-producer-is-barred-from-oscar-ceremony/

    • Tom_Bando says :

      Ah was he the mysterious JettLi93?

    • xiphos0311 says :

      Conti what exactly did he do wrong? From what I understand he just wrote to some friends right? How come somebody like the Winesteins or other producers can take out full page ads in the trades that do basically the same thing and that’s OK? I really don’t understand what the problem is except that the producer has some rat snitches for friends, then again it is Hollywood…

      • Continentalop says :

        The problem was he broke a rule against BAD MOUTHING the oppossing movies. He basically said AVATAR shouldn’t win, not because it is bad, but because it cost way more than THE HURT LOCKER. He was trying to not praise his movie but sabotage another persons movie by contacting people in the industry and have them influence friends based on economic self interest (that a blockbuster hurts independent movies).

        Ok, the Academy has rules against that. Now we know people still bad mouth other movies and try to sabotage them but they don’t do it so blatantly as he did. Or leave an electronic trail.

        Don’t feel bad for him though. I’ve met him a couple of times and he always come across as the worst stereotypical arrogant French Man.

      • xiphos0311 says :

        Thanks for the explaination NOW I understand.

  13. Tom_Bando says :

    …..must…resist…urge….to….compare…Xiphos/Avatar to….Almada, Goats and Abrams Trek….must…..

    • xiphos0311 says :

      Feel free I won’t be labor the point a la the goat fucker. I’ve said my piece and that’s that.

      • Tom_Bando says :

        Ha ha I know. You’re just TORKED there buddy. You sounded like me after I saw the news about Bud fucking Selig’s statue being raised outside Miller Stadium in Brewski land. I hate that bastard.

  14. xiphos0311 says :

    Selig for everything he did well, Wild card and inter-league play(debatable I like it but it needs to be changed up now) he has done like four stupid things like deciding the home team of the World Series by who wins the All Star game or pushing the season into November OR ignoring the steroid problem then acting like a child when cornered about it.

    • Tom_Bando says :

      It’s that last bit that kills me. He is ALWAYS backfilling on things like roids. What-on my watch? didn’t happen-NO WAY! I will appoint George Mitchell to investigate it.

      Fuck that shit.

  15. Tom_Bando says :

    And of course the old-let’s kill off Two teams–and who does he pick. Minnesota(!) and the Expos. Oh REALLY Bud?? and what about the THIRD M team–the shitty one that hasn’t won since 1992?! ever hear of your own freakin’ BREWERS>!!! if there was a team that should have been folded–besides the Marlins I mean–that was it. Right there. GAG. Anyways. I will shaddap.

  16. xiphos0311 says :

    More importantly it’s just one month until opening day. Are you Red Sox fan Tom or do you root for the Rockies?

    • Tom_Bando says :

      Red Sox and Cubs. Believe it or not I started rooting for the clowns w/ the C’s on their hats as a 9 year old, something about first pack of my own baseball cards having mostly Cubs in’em. (oooo Steve Swisher! Bob Locker!–hey I was still 8…).

  17. Toadkillerdog says :

    Hurt Locker and PTSD.

    I have not seen HL yet, so I can make no real comment on it. I will say that I may be a tad more forgiving of uniform details than my comrade in arms is – but I do understand his point.

    About PTSD – I think Xi was making a broad point when he said that it is shit. Xi, forgive me if I am putting words on your laptop, but I do not think you meant to imply that PTSD is phony, only that it is overly diagnosed and abused by some in order to get money.

    PTSD has existed for as long as wars have been fought. It just existed under other names. In WW I it was called being shell shocked.

    I come from a military family. Father, Grandfather, one of my uncles and one of my brothers were/are all military. So it was a no brainer for me to enter the service. But, my father who fought in Nam made sure that my brother and I knew what we were in for. He took us to the psych wing of the local VA. He had a buddy there that he visited often. He told us in no uncertain terms that the man we met had cracked under the pressure of what he saw and did and that the same thing could happen to us. No way in hell both me and my brother told him later. My father just looked at us. Some men just are not made to withstand what happens in wars. I don’t blame them anymore than I would blame a helpless child. Especially in times of a draft when boys who would never have entered the service were pressed into it.

    Even without the draft though, you still have guys who just are not meant for fighting. They are fine in peacetime. They get through the tests, but nothing can actually prepare you for a war.

    Yeah, some fake or exaggerate it – that is a time honored military tradition. But there are those who really do get fucked up.

    • xiphos0311 says :

      Toad you are absolutely correct there are legitimate cases of PTSD but there is also manufactured cases. The manufactured ones are what I was reacting to because they are based on two principals, cash and the cynical preemptive PR attack by Officers in HQ Marine Corps.

      They have cynically decided to preempt any kind of liability by instituting mandatory “screening” process. They turn it over to contracted whores, make a boat load of cash, so keeping numbers up is paramount. Then the whores work on Marines and soldiers with comments like “it all right to feel bad over what you done” or “guilt is OK if you express it” It’s mostly aimed at the 18 to 21 year olds, the ones it would work on best. I find it to be a disgusting concept and one that bothers the living hell out of me, turning proud kids into head cases for money and CYA.

  18. Jarv says :

    Avatar is latently racist- no arguments there. It is also all the other things you say.

    Don’t care though. I like it.

  19. Droid says :

    Conti, why is THL’s “validity” under question? I’ve never seen it stated anywhere that THL is a factual account of the Iraq war. It never takes sides in a political context. It’s not about the war in broad scope, it’s about one man who is essentially an adrenaline junky. I realise that Mark Boal “spent time” with military units, but has he ever said that this is exactly what they’re like? Just wondering.

    • Jarv says :

      I’m sure he has Droid.

      • Droid says :

        Where has he said it?

      • Jarv says :

        I’m looking for it now.

      • Jarv says :

        I’ve just read an interview with him where he implies that it’s true in one sentence then turns round and says it’s fiction in the next.

        It’s a trifle disingenuous, but I was left with the impression that it was a fictional account of real events. If that makes sense.

      • Droid says :

        So essentially he’s saying that there are units like this, but what is depicted in the film isn’t entirely accurate.

      • Jarv says :

        No- it’s slimier.

        He says “it’s a fictionalised account”, but this follows on after a paragraph about the verisimillitude of his playboy story and account of their behaviour generally. It’s a bullshit caveat, and reads like he’s trying to imply that it’s totally accurate.

        Then it’s followed by a US Secretary of Defence praising it for it’s “Accuracy”.

        Bullshit spin- you’re obviously meant to think he was going for realism, but if anyone calls him, he can turn round and say “but I said it was fictionalised”.

        He comes off as a bit of a cunt in that interview, actually.

      • Droid says :

        To be quite honest, I can’t believe that this film is getting backlash for being “inaccurate”. Nowhere in the actual film does it purport to being based on any person or event. It’s an action thriller about a reckless bomb disposal expert. I’m pretty baffled by that reaction. It’s like saying that “SWAT” isn’t accurately depicting members of a real SWAT unit. Or The Hills Have Eyes isn’t accurately depicting nuked mutated hillbillies.

        No shit!

      • Jarv says :

        I haven’t seen it so can’t comment.

        However, I’ve seen the accuracy of it praised in a lot of different places, either by those that should know better (US Secretary of Defence) or those that are just pig ignorant. There’s been a lot of critical reaction (I think you said that it felt real to you) also claiming that it had a certain realistic caste.

        Also, if the slimy cunt that wrote it, is trying to pass it off as reality, when it clearly isn’t then I can understand why people are fucked off.

        I’d need to read the playboy article and see the film to comment further- if he isn’t pretending it’s real then this whole conversation is redundant.

      • Droid says :

        Yes. I did say that it felt or seemed real. Can’t remember which one I said. And I suppose thats both the films strength and crutch. While it never comes right out and says that it’s factual, to the layman it never goes so far in to implausability that you question it’s authenticity.

    • xiphos0311 says :

      Droid it has absolutely nothing to do with politics and everything to do with the issue about how Bowles on one hand hints and nudges and in some place almost says its an accurate depeiction of events. Other times he saying no it a amalgam of people and places and things I saw and heard.

      The biggest problem though is the way the Renner character behaves. I am no expert in EOD but from what I’ve seen over the years(Army Marine and Air Force) they tend to run to a type. Mellow, thinking guys with a very big “team” mentality. That’s what EOD looks for in their personnel, especially guys in leadership positions. The very first time a member takes of his protective gear and says he doesn’t care he lives or dies he would on the next plane smoking out of there.

      Renner’s loner I can do it on my own attitude would not fly with that group. Out of everybody In the service. In the Infantry and EOD team work is taken very seriously even though it is always talked about everywhere else those two MOS have the most rigid adherence to the concept. Something like Payroll or supply it’s not that big of a deal.

      • Droid says :

        Where does Boal say these things? Jarv said he read an article, but never mentioned which one. I’d be interested to read some of the things Boal is/was saying about it.

      • xiphos0311 says :

        Check out most of Bowels interviews, he dances around the question like Baryshnikov dancing the Nut Cracker.

        Like I noted above he did go on a morning TV show and state explicitly that he did not see anything like what was in the screen play.

      • Droid says :

        Check out most of Bowels interviews, he dances around the question like Baryshnikov dancing the Nut Cracker.

        So that’s why Jarv reads the interviews. It makes him happy in his naughty place.

  20. Tom_Bando says :

    As for the Hurt Locker—I’m more interested in-how good a Film is it? how entertaining/thought provoking/well-made/acted? Heck I enjoy a WWII knockoff of the Lost Patrol called ‘Bataan’-it’s blatantly studio shot, has a cast of: Thomas Mitchell, Desi Arnez, Lloyd Nolan and Robert Taylor, has 200 Japanese extras wearing rubber plant suits and toy planes. It is much more a Bruckheimer sorta thing than anything else if you think about it. But it’s solid entertainment.

    I severely doubt it’s even close to what my great-uncle who was there in Bataan actually went thru(he was a POW for ummm 2-3 years and didn’t make it). Jest sayin’.

    I have yet to watch this here Bomb Squad movie, so-I’ll certainly wait to see for myself. Xiphos might just be ‘too close’ to the source material to just stick the brain in nuetral and enjoy.

    I get that. One of my brothers is a pilot. Saw the Aviator. Hated it. Knew too much about the actual stuff they were showing and etc. to just simply watch. Not me, I liked it for what it was. But you see where I’m getting at.

    Avatar I liked but don’t think I need to see again.

  21. koutchboom says :

    I think with the Hurt Locker a lot of it had to do with initial critical reaction. A bunch of tag liners trying to say its the most realistic military movie about the Iraq war was what a lot of people heard about it first, so the makers of the movie ran with it, because that Luke Perry poster wasn’t putting any butts in seats.

  22. Continentalop says :

    Droid, besides what Jarv said I will add one of the things that drives me nuts about THL is that they constantly bring up the fact that Bowels was embedded with troops, implying that his story is much more realistic and accurate. I mean, if it really is a completely fictionalized account why the fuck keep bringing up that you were over there? You only would want to mention that if your trying to push the authenticity of your film.

    • koutchboom says :

      Hahaha yeah that is a good point. Its sort of like how Oliver Stone was in Nam for Platoon.

      But was that not here somewhere we brought up the issue of military uniforms? Like someone had a story about it?

  23. Continentalop says :

    Btw – Jarv, you hated Deliverance?

  24. M. Blitz says :

    Jesus Christ…..The Hurt Locker.
    The plot thickens…..again!

    http://tinyurl.com/y9r99oe

    • lordbronco says :

      Hee hee-I read this one… here’s my take.

      Sorry, Son.

      Proudly serving in the military as an EOD specialist does not entitle you to make money off of a job you are being paid hard-earned, American cash for while you actually talk to an embedded journalist.

      As an American citizen, you do have the right to sue anybody at anytime, but this seems like the lowliest of pathetic cash grabs.

      perhaps something that commonly occurs in the united States army.

    • xiphos0311 says :

      This douche is claiming he coined the term “the hurt locker”? get the hell out of here its been used at least 23 years. I first heard in at Army Basic training in 87 as we rolled off the bus.

  25. lordbronco says :

    Ha Ha-Thanks for the reviews, Xi!

    I’ve been dying to hear what an active duty soldiers take on THL would be, and I sure got one!

    I stand by my original review, but I am looking to do a followup after hearing what you have to say.

    Avatar is what it is, and I enjoyed it, but mostly for the last 40 minutes.

    Sherlock-haven’t seen. Crazies-might go watch today-Olyphant was great in Deadwood.

    See you over there if i see you, thanks again.

    • xiphos0311 says :

      you know what Bronco the opinions of THL from active duty personnel vary widely, some hate it some think it’s great but most just sort of shrug it off.

      I don’t presume to speak for the people that love it but i think they like it because after the slew of shitty Iraq war movies that came and and crapped on everybody THL is on the surface positive. That’s just my opinion I have zero facts to back it up.

  26. lordbronco says :

    and here’s my prescription for what ails you Xi:

    Lord bronco’s patented “Avatar Locker”!

    That’s right!

    A tiny, tiny coffin shaped plywood box which is buried 12 feet under ground, which is sumptously outfitted with state of the art VCR technology which only plays two things.

    Avatard and Crap locker-IN 2-D!

    Not only that, there is a remote control.

    Owing to financial, technological limitations however, the two motion pictures may be freely switched between one or the other.

    Unfortunately, switching a channel does set off the Chinese Water Torture Drip System. The system does currently run in one and a half hour timing cycles, thus ensuring that you Will enjoy Avatar more than Hurt Locker.

    Possibly.

    • xiphos0311 says :

      Out of the two movies i would prefer to watch the Crap Locker Avatard is just so boring.

      • lordbronco says :

        You misunderstand.

        You will enjoy Avatard more than Crap Locker.

        That is the ultimate destiny that our scientists have assigned to you.

        Resistance is Futile.

        Ha ha Xi, just having a lark-I’m actually having a great day for once clowning around.

        Oh yeah, we have to get you a an X-Box so we can hear your review of Battlefield:Bad Company 2 the video game.

        It’s Extreme and Burly-it’s got Combat Dune Buggies and Helicopters and Stuff-It’s probably Quite Awesome!

        It’s gonna sell a bajillion units here in the States!

        here is dopey link:

        http://tinyurl.com/yhceytj

        Don’t blow a head gasket!

      • Tom_Bando says :

        Xiphos wants the Giant Robot Lion (TM) director’s cut of the Hurt Locker. So do I. Let’s see if we can find it by using the Google-

      • xiphos0311 says :

        They put FAVs in the video game, why? It’s all about the IFAV or GMV nowadays.The original FAVs were fun to tool around in but they weren’t all that useful really.

  27. Continentalop says :

    Ok, I can’t speak for people in the military and actually see combat, but I don’t think a war movie has to be accurate or realistic, even if it is a recent or ongoing. Apocalypse Now, M*A*S*H nor The Deer Hunter were accurrate at all. But I personally don’t mind those movies because A) they are awesome, and B) they are not meant to be viewed as realistic. They are either metaphors/parables about the war or satire about the military.

    Deer Hunter has a lot of inaccuracies, but I still have yet to see a better metaphor for going off to war than Russian Roullette.

    The problem with movies like Saving Private Ryan is they sell themselves as being almost documentaries of what it was like, and that’s bs. I haven’t see THL but I do know that the American ad campaign sold it as being realistic and authentic.

  28. Toadkillerdog says :

    Xi, I was pretty sure that is what you meant. By the time I left the Corps PTSD was just starting to be seen as something that needed to be addressed, but it was not as politicized or even that big of a story in the media.

    Ya, I completely agree with your position that it is just a form of CYA and a money grab. Without a doubt, the kids they are targeting -and I consider 18-22 year olds kids, are so impressionable and we both know how the service can easily manipulate the more weaker minded ones, that it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy.

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